ellio
- 15 May 2006 09:10
The market seems to be selling-off on the back of limited bad news imo, apart from the dollar that is.
If you can hold your nerve and apart from any short term requirements to offload poor performing stocks, I have a couple!!, my advice would be sit tight. This does not have the feel of the tech(mining!) bubble at all. Difference being there are a lot of good fundamentals, unlike in 2000 when there were a lot of over rated nothing companies.
Big Ted
- 14 Mar 2007 16:44
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well portfolio held up well today, RTN being the star, bought couple more items, will keep close eye on though, still consider this a correction, but will be taking any profits on the next rally, i think this volatility will last a while, who knows...
hlyeo98
- 14 Mar 2007 18:50
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Certainly very exciting riding the market now...Dow was down 110 points earlier to 11950 and it has recovered to breakeven now. Very enjoyable. See where it ends today remains a suspense. Much better than a Agatha Christie novel.
Big Al
- 14 Mar 2007 20:50
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Such a strong rebound is interesting.
Big Ted
- 14 Mar 2007 21:03
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probably proof if ever needed the bull run is still present, too many buyers piling in to support the market, it will take several drops before sentiment changes...
*damn* not a single smelling mistake and i've been on it since 4pm...
cynic
- 14 Mar 2007 21:08
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market has indeed finished up today, against all expectations, but i shall be holding my short open
Big Ted
- 14 Mar 2007 21:28
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so one has to predict a modest gain on open tomorrow, i can well imagine 6175 close friday, 12,225 dow... but thats the beauty of this market now, who can be really be certain...?
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 07:42
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No idea where the markets in general are going, guys, but I do know the bearish sentiment in the sub prime lending market is at least badly overdone and at worst totally unfounded.
It is based on the thought that delinquancy rates are going up and the lenders own credit rating with S&P or suchlike will be badly hit.
The truth is that two of the biggest sub prime lenders have performed reviews on their sub prime borrowers and found (to their own suprise) that delinquancy is lower than anticipated by a quite large degree and have announced that next week, they will be reducing their loadings on base rate / LIBOR to increase applications.
The two are the sub prime intermediary arm of General Motors and the sub prime intermediary arm of Merril Lynch. ML have also, interestingly, reduced their fixed rates as they view the UK interest rate as benign and less likely now to increase.
With the markets as they are, logic means nothing, but it does seem the worries in this arena are unfounded.
Alan
Strawbs
- 15 Mar 2007 08:17
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Possibly a little overdone. I think a larger worry is that lending will now dry up and so flatten an already depressed housing market. That will have a knock on effect in construction and will probably impact consumer spending too.
Strawbs.
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 08:51
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Barclays clearly does not like this sub-prime market and has called in its loan to Firsty Century ....... US housing starts are flat as a pancake ..... construction industry new jobs are at their lowest for 15 years ....... Strong bull markets will regularly overlook this sort of grim statistic, but the extreme volatility we are seeing suggests to me that over the next few months, down is still much more likely than up.
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 09:11
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Barclays never did. They are something of an odd ball in this market in that they only have direct lending and do not use any other form of introducing / marketing, and they usually didn't bother securitising most of their debt. I would not regard them as a touchstone.
I have no idea what the US market may be like, but I do know that large US lenders are seeking a quick and easy way into the UK market, as they view this as much less risky.
A well known US company is currently seeking to buy UK sub prime lenders, including a very "famous face" one you see on TV all the time. They have confidence in this market.
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 09:18
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I'm wrong? .... I don't think so!! ..... Telegraph headline today ..... "Barclays has demanded the immediate repayment of about $900m of mortgage loans from New Century Financial, America's second largest sub-prime lender"
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 09:27
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Never said you were wrong.
Read the post again, get off your high horse.
I said I had no idea of the US market.
I said Barclays were an oddball that never did like sub prime lending.
I said they often didn't securitise their debt.
I said I would not regard them as a touchstone.
I NEVER said you were wrong.
The headline refers to Barclays lending money to a business that lends money to sub prime borrowers. Barclays do not care for US sub prime market. So what??
Good grief, man, can you never accept that anyone may have a differing opinion to you??
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 09:35
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likewise you .... keep buying those SEO ... strongly touted as a company with unbelievable prospects!!!
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 09:40
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Obvious to anyone that my post never in any way criticised you or your opinion.
You, however are insecure enough to feel the need to criticise anyone who has a different opinion.
If you cannot rise above childish jibes and insults you expose yourself for what you are.
SEO is not the subject of this thread, though you choose to mention it as (possibly) an error in my investments. I didn't realise you never got a single thing wrong.
I note howeverthat you do not mention other threads I have started or contribute to, such as BBC, HYC, CTG that have performed remarkably well.
I wonder why that is.
cynic
- 15 Mar 2007 09:54
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can't be bothered with handbags at dawn ..... have never heard of BBC or CTG .... HYC i look at occasionally as it is a damn good company though have yet to dabble there
partridge
- 15 Mar 2007 09:59
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Calm down boys - life is too short and your blood pressure important. Recently suffered 3 funerals, deceased aged 16 (car crash), 48 (skiing accident) and 85 (old age).As a neutral, enjoy reading posts from both of you - cynic well named, but brings more realism than most, Alan has more wit in his little finger than most.Would be interested in response from either about the BARC post I made on 20th Feb!
neil777
- 15 Mar 2007 10:20
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This thread's more volatile than the markets!
And just as much fun.
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 10:24
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Oh no it isn't
hewittalan6
- 15 Mar 2007 10:24
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Oh yes it is
neil777
- 15 Mar 2007 10:28
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He's behind you!!!!!