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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

VICTIM - 09 Jan 2017 15:48 - 6078 of 12628

I wish they would move faster on getting rid of her , stupid woman caused the whole problem practically on her own , no thought whatsoever .

cynic - 09 Jan 2017 15:59 - 6079 of 12628

why do some of you continue to delude yourselves that trade deals can be done within a couple of weeks?
for all sorts of good reasons (and bad probably as well) they are very complex

mentor - 09 Jan 2017 16:03 - 6080 of 12628

cynic

re - fast

try not to be too clever
That was a joke for .. freda

not to EU ( red tape of papers )

Fred1new - 09 Jan 2017 16:21 - 6081 of 12628

Do you mean farce?

If so there seem a few on this thread who could play themselves.

cynic - 09 Jan 2017 16:22 - 6082 of 12628

don't be so touchy .... it wasn't a response to your post, but an observation of a number of others on this thread

VICTIM - 09 Jan 2017 16:27 - 6083 of 12628

I was going to talk about playing with myself but ....

VICTIM - 09 Jan 2017 16:33 - 6084 of 12628

Oh sorry misheard you , pardon .

Chris Carson - 09 Jan 2017 16:56 - 6085 of 12628

Freda has a degree in self abuse, dontcha know.

mentor - 09 Jan 2017 17:36 - 6086 of 12628

Labour party farce

Jeremy, Jeremy don't be a naughty boy

give me a kiss images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRntytz7xgcje0dy4_xBIV not in public

Alright then images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZoDsLnNR45FZL8Fuj0tB Freda

required field - 09 Jan 2017 18:13 - 6087 of 12628

Am I correct that vat will be abolished when we leave the EU in full ?......if so that is when the big frauds might appear with certain companies/people defrauding the EU system on a massive scale ! : these companies probably depend on the dodgy system and without it will fold.....some big boys might end up in the nick !...they must have cursed when the Leave camp won......

grannyboy - 09 Jan 2017 18:24 - 6088 of 12628

No VAT won't be abolished, whether they change the name thats
another matter, before VAT there was a sales tax put on sales.

required field - 09 Jan 2017 18:31 - 6089 of 12628

Apparently the French far right want to do the same as and exit the Euro and return to the good old franc.....elections next may !.....they get in and that will be the end of the euro.....and from what I understand they are doing not too badly in the opinion polls......the problem is France has far too many migrants...they can't get rid of them....they are supporting Greece (along with Germany of course) but it is completely draining their resources keeping a stranglehold on french growth : there is no room for investment with the need to prop up the euro minnow economies .......

required field - 09 Jan 2017 18:32 - 6090 of 12628

A sales tax will be in place but the vat system will have to be altered without any doubt...it can't be called vat anymore....so will this be like when we went decimal....a transitional period perhaps if I might call it that and will the percentage be the same ?...it could be less or more....if 10 % instead of 20 : we could undercut European economies in sales/pricing growth.....there might be a fabulous opportunity here if May's government can keep a tight reign on finances somehow.....Hong Kong Britain I wonder ?....this situation could turn into a major ace at the brexit negotiations table....

Fred1new - 09 Jan 2017 18:46 - 6091 of 12628

VAT probably 30% by Jan 2018.

Unless Maybe has done a runner.

required field - 09 Jan 2017 18:48 - 6092 of 12628

it's also possible but I don't think such a massive increase would be politically acceptable Freddy......more like 2 or 3%...but a big drop might boost the economy....

required field - 09 Jan 2017 18:56 - 6093 of 12628

The government could say to the EU....now listen unless you agree to good trade terms we cut the sales tax/vat upon brexit date......it's like poker.....(or blackmail).....more like the latter....

iturama - 09 Jan 2017 18:59 - 6094 of 12628

Please explain RF why Value Added Tax can't be called VAT after Brexit? Does the EU have the rights over the use of the English language? And where is the inducement for the government to reduce the rate? With Theresa May showing Mother Theresa tendencies, she will need all the money she can raise. Not that I disagree with her sentiments but her ideas will cost money.

Haystack - 09 Jan 2017 19:09 - 6095 of 12628

Let Pen has changed course over Europe. She now says that she doesn't want to leave EU or Euro. She believes that renegotiation is the answer.

Haystack - 09 Jan 2017 19:11 - 6096 of 12628

I expect VAT will remain and be at same rate and name. Unlikely to be cut as tax receipts needed.

Fred1new - 09 Jan 2017 19:46 - 6097 of 12628

RF.

The pound dropping against the dollar and Euro will be enough stimulus to the economy.

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But, I hope my suggestion of 30% is a mirage, as I was taking the short route.

Again, Mother Maybe has to raise taxes from the poorest to pay for her right-winged phantasies, so anything is possible.
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