Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

why have the fathers of those children taken to Syria not gone after them .
that is the question loving families

an Englishman would die for is children
others will not even try and save them

Actually if Greece leave the EU and Eurozone Cameron can send them some foreign aid and food parcels.

See he has changed mind on Med. immigrants.

To embarassed to go around EU with his cap in hand standing up for Maggie. Sorry Magna Carta england.

Powerful fellow this Dave chap, not ashamed of doing another U-turn instead of thinking first.

Should have sent IDS.

Why Tories should join Labour and back Jeremy Corbyn

For just a £3 membership fee you can help consign the party to electoral oblivion in 2020 - and silence its loony Left forever






By Toby Young

7:51AM BST 17 Jun 2015


Just before Jeremy Corbyn made it on to the Labour leadership ballot, Ladbrokes were offering odds of 100 to one against him winning. Now, they’re down to 20 to one and falling. I wish I’d had the foresight to get on that sooner. By September he could well be the favourite. At least, he could if I have anything to do with it.


• Conservatives joining Labour to back Jeremy Corbyn


With the first televised Labour leadership hustings being broadcast tonight, I’d like to take this opportunity to endorse the #ToriesForCorbyn campaign. I can’t claim credit for this hashtag – that honour belongs to Marcus Walker, the associate director of the Anglican Centre in Rome – but I will certainly do my best to promote it.

As the Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson pointed out on Twitter yesterday, Labour’s new electoral rules mean that all members, registered supporters and affiliated supporters who join before 12pm on the 12 August can vote in the leadership election.



Ruth Davidson MSP
✔ ‎@RuthDavidsonMSP
I seem to have a lot of traffic in my timeline saying that for a mere £3, I can change Labour's future and vote for Jeremy Corbyn. Bargain.


8:32 AM - 16 Jun 2015



More fun here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11680016/Why-Tories-should-join-Labour-and-back-Jeremy-Corbyn.html

This is how you join as a supporter

https://supporters.labour.org.uk/leadership/1

Very amusing to watch the anti austerity marchers in Central London. There seems to be quite a ragbag collection there; SWP, anti nuclear etc. They haven't grasped that somewhere around 70% of the population support the cuts.

www.ft.com › UK
20 Apr 2015 -

George Osborne's plan to make further cuts to Britain's welfare bill has the support of 75 per cent of voters

39%

Haystack,

I believe rain is forecast. Some of them are probably in dire need of a good wash.

Ipsos MORI’s monthly political monitor is out, their first since the election. Topline figures are CON 39%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 8%, GRN 6%.

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Most of them!

Hilary,

Very few people recognise their own smell and some who are tainted are not cleansed by washing.

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If the EU zone collapses which countries will be the winners?

All the so called failed ones for a start Fred.

Do you mean the UK has similar characteristics to the failed states and should join them?

Labour’s Kezia Dugdale Holyrood election warning


Scott MacNab
02:52Sunday 21 June 2015 14:06Saturday 20 June 2015
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HAVE YOUR SAY
Labour’s Scottish meltdown could get even worse at next year’s Holyrood election, Kezia Dugdale has admitted.

The leadership frontrunner yesterday delivered a stark warning about the scale of the task she faces to revive the party’s fortunes in Scotland as the younger generation turn to the SNP.


If I am elected leader I won’t stand for business as usual just because it’s inconvenient to say otherwise. I’m going to shake things up.
Kezia Dugdale



She has also revealed that Labour members could push for a vote on becoming fully independent from the UK party amid emerging calls from grassroots members.

Dugdale said she had been “shocked” by a TNS poll last week which suggested that 80 per cent of people aged 25 to 34 would be voting SNP in next May’s Holyrood election – and just 5 per cent would be backing Labour.

“We may not be at the bottom of where the Labour party could get to in Scottish public life,” Dugdale told supporters.

“There might be another storm coming,” she said.

“That’s part of the reason why I’m stepping up because I think I’m best placed to try to speak to that generation, to understand their hopes and aspirations – and to realise that in terms of policy. But it’s rooted in our values.”

Writing in Scotland on


Sunday today Dugdale also sets out the need to win back the under-35s after only a “tiny fraction” voted Labour in May’s election

“That has serious implications about our long-term

future as a Party if we don’t reverse that trend,” she says.

“Having a leader who is part of that younger generation would help.”




Labour has not been focused enough on Holyrood and the Scottish Parliament since devolution, Dugdale said.

“We’ve had election cycle after election cycle where we got it wrong and still didn’t fix it – until a couple of weeks ago when the electorate fixed it for us.

“The electorate decided for us that the centre of Scottish politics for Labour was the Scottish Parliament.”

The party must address the issue of how it “presents itself”, she added.

“We were very, very good at saying to people, ‘here are all the things that are wrong with Scotland’,” she said.




“There’s a lot of people on low pay, so we’re going to introduce a living wage. “There are lots of people out of work, so we’re going to create job opportunities for young people.

“The NHS is a mess, so we’re going to employ 1,000 more nurses. Problem, problem, problem – fix, fix, fix.

“We made people feel bad about Scotland. We have the opportunity of a better life or a better future.

“What the SNP did, in my view, was to say ‘Scotland’s great, it would be so much better if you vote for us’.”

Dugdale will today unveil plans to overhaul the party’s internal structures, which could let grassroots members bring forward a vote on an independent Scottish Labour party at future conferences.

Leadership rival Ken Macintosh, in a separate article for today’s paper, has pledged to adopt a “less aggressive and adversarial” style if he wins the party leadership.

“Every week at First Minister’s Questions we seem to simply blame the Scottish Government for everything that’s wrong in Scotland, we constantly define ourselves by who or what we’re opposed to, when we should be talking with conviction, hope and passion about the successful and fairer Scotland we want to create.”


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There's everything you need to know about the failings of Socialism in one interview. Shame is she doesn't realise how dim it all sounds.

An economic problem? Don't worry: the government will fix it. And market forces don't really exist so everything will be just fine.

So, if there are unemployed people, she says the government will just "create job opportunities" to fix it. And if people are not very well paid, the government will again just pass a law to say their wages must be higher.

There is an utter poverty of analysis here and no willingness to ask searching questions about causes and consequences, doubtless because she wouldn't like the answers which would conflict with her ideological preconceptions.

There is no attempt to ask why we still have so much unemployment or why the less-skilled in particular are often on low pay. Yet a key question to ask is why we're importing large numbers of foreign citizens who are finding it both possible and attractive to come here and take those sorts of jobs. It simply can't therefore be a shortage of "job opportunities" in this country that lies behind our having so many native unemployed when we're importing so much additional labour. So the government will clearly be unable to address this problem by just magicking-up some more "job opportunities". Worse, if foreign workers are coming here in such numbers to take jobs because they find the current pay levels attractive, what does this cloth-headed woman imagine will happen to the inflow of foreigners if the government legislates to ensure local wages actually go up? Does she seriously reckon that many more foreigner workers won't be attracted to come?

But then Socialism involves repudiating reality and operating as though in an alternative universe where the inconvenience facts on the grounds don't exist, where the laws of supply and demand are merely an invention of the nasty "neoliberals" which one's policies should ignore, and where one's well-meaning idealistic fantasies always come good.