Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

deport any immigrant in the uk helping these illegals .
and close their businesses down if they employ any illegal workers and deport them

come on dave pass the law

sky news thousands of children have been raped abused by Asian men all over the country . they should all be sent back home for their punishment they are low life scum

what about lord janner and his mates?
or you can take your pick from any number of schoolmasters and the like

Send them an all!

What about blustering Dodgy Dave and his dodgy crew mates, who were going to sort out IMMIGRATION and seem instead turning the UK into a holiday resort?

Who are they going to blame this time?

What disaster this grubby incompetent crew are.

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On the other topic I think Leon Brittan, Maggie Thatcher and a few of their mating friends have more than a few questions to answer, even if they are post mortem enquiries.

Funny clubs they seem to belonged to.

isn't janner a labour peer?

fred - you really are so UTTERLY BORING AND PREDICTABLE

I wish some of your mates weren't so predictable.

The €U is rotten to the core!



Amazon's UK business paid just £11.9m in tax last year


Online retailer’s Luxembourg unit took £5.3bn sales from British internet shoppers, a rise of 14%, but Amazon.co.uk Limited recorded profit of just £34.4m




Amazon’s former head of tax, Bob Comfort, last year gave an interview recalling how in 2003 the then prime minister of Luxembourg, Jean-Claude Juncker, had behaved as “business partner” to the online retailer. Juncker is now the president of the European Union’s executive arm, the European commission.




Full story here: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/24/amazons-uk-business-paid-119m-tax-last-year

And that is a problem because?

No tax money for the politicians to piss up the wall...which in turn means we have to pay it (in addition)


Also, it's a bit rich to have high ranking pols in the pocket of the companies.

So the 7,000 Amazon UK employees don't count for anything? Do those employees not pay PAYE? And the 210,000 sq ft Amazon central London HQ doesn't provide income for other businesses and their employees who might happen to pay direct taxation on earnings, and indirect taxation on expenditure?

Or is it a case that the leftish Grauniad readership are affronted, so that's what it is?

Also Amazon are selling British goods that generate tax from the suppliers. In the case of Amazon's books, there is only a small profit per book, which enables low prices. As a result the consumers in the UK get a good deal regarding price. ALL multinational companies operate the way that Amazon, Google, Starbucks etc do. Even our companies such as ICI bring their profits back to the UK and pay minimal tax abroad. Ford did it by manufacturing engines in one country, bodies in another. They then use differential pricing to ensure the finished car makes a profit in their chosen country. That has been going on since any of us were born. If you think about it, there is little point in building up part of your company in another country just to leave a substantial slice of your profits there.

£5.3bn sales from British internet shoppers = £11mil in tax...an you think that's ok?

Current problems in Calais are causing severe delays across the Channel.

Immigrants from Africa are advised to check before travelling.

The tax would be on the profit and not the £5.3bn which is turnover. It is the same as our companies not paying tax in countries where they operate.

Of course on the profit.

What was the profit, actually acrued (primary) in this country?


Even at 1%, that's £50 million , and I suspect it was a lot more than 1%.

If the profit is £50m then corporation tax at 21% comes to £10.5m. So £11m is about right.

If you want Amazon to pay tax on their profits here then you must expect our UK multinational companies to do the same and pay their tax in all the countries that they do business. That would be a huge loss for our tax revenues.

Tom Peterkin: Scottish Labour left pondering future


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SCOTTISH Labour’s past explains its problems, writes Tom Peterkin

As the Labour Party in Scotland ponders some difficult questions about its future, BBC viewers were treated to an interesting glimpse into its past this week. A documentary hosted by Jackie Bird attempted to shed some light on the events that have led to Labour’s astonishing descent from power and the parlous state it now finds itself in.

The Fall of Labour, broadcast on Monday night, chronicled the party’s failure to deal with the rise of the SNP.





It harked back to a time when Labour’s dominance of Scotland was unchallenged and the SNP had yet to emerge from the political fringes.


Footage of that redoubtable Scottish secretary Willie Ross reminded viewers of just how far the balance of power has shifted. With contempt dripping from his voice, a clip of a grainy archive film saw Ross delivering a withering verdict on the SNP of several decades ago.

“It is the irrelevance of that shoddy party that to my mind disgraces the name of Scotland with its cheapness of slogans, dividing this nation,” Ross thundered. It was a vignette that not only illustrated Labour’s hostility to the SNP but also just how far Nicola Sturgeon’s party has come. No longer can the party be dismissed as an irrelevance. As the programme attempted to explain how the SNP came to usurp Labour as the pre-eminent political party in Scotland, there was a more telling vignette that spoke volumes about the confused nature of the party’s leadership in Scotland.

Donald Dewar’s former spindoctor and the former Labour MSP David Whitton was asked about the extent that Gordon Brown interfered with the affairs of the Scottish party. It was a question asked by Bird in the knowledge that little was done in Scottish Labour without the say-so of Brown – encouraging suggestions that the Scottish arm of the party was in thrall to London.

“Gosh,” exclaimed the normally unflappable Whitton before dissolving into nervous laughter and side-stepping the question.


There is little doubt this command structure damaged Labour’s attempts to carve out a distinct position in Scotland.

Perhaps the most obvious example of Brown’s influence on Scottish politics was when the then prime minister put the kybosh on then Scottish Labour leader Wendy Alexander’s bold proposal to hold an independence referendum back in 2008.

With the benefit of hindsight, there can be few within Labour who do not now wish that Alexander’s plan to “bring it on” had come to fruition. Had Labour grasped the initiative, the SNP would have been denied six years of referendum preparation. The No vote may have been more decisive and Labour might not have taken the SNP’s place as the party of irrelevance.

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Can you name a few with figs Haystack?