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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

mnamreh - 16 Nov 2012 12:13 - 6096 of 6906

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cynic - 16 Nov 2012 12:17 - 6097 of 6906

not convinced that was so, but would happily bow to greater knowledge ..... i was under the impression that there was a very strong "peace movement" generated by a wide x-section of the populace that at least provided a significant catalyst

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 12:22 - 6098 of 6906

There are approx 1.5 million Palestinian refugees who were hounded out of Israel and had their homes and land stolen. About 500,000 STILL live in refugee camps more than 50 years later. Israel will not accept their right of return in any peace talks. This item alone will prevent Hamas and the Palestinians accepting peace for ever.

Palestine will get observer status at the UN in the next month. Palestine will charge Israel and their leaders with war crimes and crimes against humanity at the ICC. Iran will get nuclear weapons and the balance of power will change in the ME.

There is NO military solution for Israel, which is a pity as that is all they know. Israel ha mounting internal social issues. This compounded by their increasing spending on the military.

Israel current path is one heading for disaster. They are all in a train with no brakes heading for a cliff.

ahoj - 16 Nov 2012 12:23 - 6099 of 6906

Thank you Cynic,

I think we should try to pass our message to BBC.

Tanker,
last war resulted in over 1413 dead (over 1400 in Palestine and 13 in Israel). You cannot expect the same message from the relatives of those killed. Also, what a mother say about her feeling should not be used to make decision about millions of people. Be fair and consider all the issues in your assessment PLEASE.

In my view no outsider can assess the situation. We can help peace ONLY by encouraging the two sides to talk and not taking sides.

mnamreh - 16 Nov 2012 12:31 - 6100 of 6906

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TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 12:36 - 6101 of 6906

ahoj try telling the SLIME that he is a idiot and as no facts he is what i say a peace of slime that must be washed away

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 12:53 - 6102 of 6906

It was John Major that really got the peace pocess under way in NI. The community peace process grew on the back of that.

TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 12:56 - 6103 of 6906

hamas must be kicked out they is no place for terorist hamas .
the president can move to any one of is many homes he as bought with aid money
is bank balance is huge with the robbing of aid money

cynic - 16 Nov 2012 13:06 - 6104 of 6906

Northern Ireland
thanks to both MNA and (even!) HS for the sensible (and intelligent!) input

a little bit "chicken and egg" with regard who got the movement towards peace going

however, i don't think either of you would disagree that had not the general public of both persuasions created a fertile, vocal and significant groundswell, the politicians would neither have got round the table, nor a workable solution tabled and accepted by nearly all

mnamreh - 16 Nov 2012 13:09 - 6105 of 6906

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cynic - 16 Nov 2012 13:10 - 6106 of 6906

and hence the analogy with m/e

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 13:27 - 6107 of 6906

I don't have any good long term views on NI. The joint management agreement with the IR was accepted by the IRA for several reasons. Firstly, the leaders such as Gerry Adams were not getting any younger. Secondly they viewed it as a transition towards a united Ireland. The united Ireland is a myth and when the supporters of the IRA see that, there will be a resurgence of violence. This is beginning to happen now with bigger and bigger bombs being deployed. The peace agreement has been a temporary sticking plaster on a serious wound. It still festers underneath and will erupt at some point. I know people on both sides (I am from Southern Irish Catholic ancestors) and their attitudes have changed little since the current peace. A united Ireland is pretty much impossible and separation has its own problems. The story is the same with all artificially created boundaries such as Korea, India, Cyprus, Ireland, Vietnam. even the factions in Belgium hate each other and it is caused by artificially creating the country about 150 years ago.

cynic - 16 Nov 2012 13:33 - 6108 of 6906

Northern Ireland (only!)
currently the peace works well enough though there inevitably remains a small hardcore of lunatics on both sides ...... no one could ever expect a lasting solution to come in just a single generation, as the hate element can only be bred out through intelligent parenting, education and experience of children of all colours and creeds playing and growing up together

magicjoe - 16 Nov 2012 13:43 - 6109 of 6906

LETS SEE WHO IS SHOUTING LOUDER

Its FRIDAY but

Some of them did not go to the Mosque
and others did not bother to go the the Weeling Wall

Some and others are given their opinion


The Palestinians are shouting...

We want our land back


The Israelis are shouting back...

The British give it to us
and the US is behind us


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Gausie - 16 Nov 2012 15:51 - 6110 of 6906

Had my response from the israeli embassy:

Dear Mr Gausie

Thank you for your suggestion as to how we might prevent being targets of future Hamas rocket attacks.

Unfortunately, your idea of rebuilding the cities and towns in southern Israel out of old copies of the Quran is not deemed practical at this particular time.

Yours

Israeli Embassy


Hey ho. I thought it was a great idea.

Haystack - 16 Nov 2012 16:20 - 6111 of 6906

Rockets have hit Jerusalem. Hamas say they are aiming at the Knesset (Israeli parliament)

cynic - 16 Nov 2012 17:22 - 6112 of 6906

clearly they're not very good at their job then :-) ...... much easier just to set fire to it as was done to the reichstag

TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 18:10 - 6113 of 6906

slime you still here slime should be washed away .
it is fitfhy shit

TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 18:11 - 6114 of 6906

the israels should go in and move the babys from infront of the cowards

TANKER - 16 Nov 2012 18:13 - 6115 of 6906

hamas hide behind infants they are lower than cowards more like rats .
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