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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 11:41 - 610 of 6906

http://www.dec.org.uk/

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 11:45 - 611 of 6906

Gausie, I keep on thinking of You and Mr Charts as of the same ilk.

My resonse was in replay to:

"MrCharts - 26 Jan 2009 18:37 - 598 of 610
Is that a link to the Nazi sites you must feel so at home on?
Or just a Trotskyist site?
Or the peace loving Hizbollah or Hamas sites?
Same thing.
All mindless thugs.
Whatever turns you on."

MrCharts - 27 Jan 2009 12:12 - 612 of 6906

Ruth,
Re- that video.
A case opened at the International Criminal Court yesterday in which a man was accused of "persuading" children to join his army to kill, pillage and rape.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7850397.stm

I have no idea whether he is guilty or not since I haven't seen the evidence.

It's interesting that fred (and his like) remain silent, as he does on so many terrible things like Darfur, on the possibility of Hamas members being brought to trial for committing identical crimes to those alleged against Thomas Lubanga in the Congo.
There is plenty of evidence on that video alone.....................

rawdm999 - 27 Jan 2009 12:57 - 613 of 6906

Gausie

That Mr Benn is OK, albeit before my time. Better offspring than the other one i'm sure :)

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 13:20 - 614 of 6906



Chart and his/their fellow travellers on the extreme right and the extreme left etc..

Interesting rant of possible projection.


Re-thugs,
I suspect it's merely he thinks everyone who disagrees with him is "them".
He lumps people together into big boxes. It enables him to label everyone without thinking so that he can hate more easily. It's always been like that throughout history. Demonise the "enemy", make them "sub-human", easier to hate, easier to justify atrocities. Link them, "Trotsky was a Jew". Therefore all communists are Jews, therefore murder all Jews and Communists. Typical Nazi subliminal (later overt) propaganda. Also later taken up by the Communists themselves. And employed now by Hamas, Hizbollah, Al Quada, L-e-T and the rest.........not to mention their fellow travellers on the extreme right and the extreme left...........
But hate is blind and hatred cannot see (with apologies to the Bard for changing his words).





It is nice to think of you with steam coming out of your ears.

I would think it reasonable for the leadership of Israel (Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni etc.). and the leadership of Hamas or Fatah to be prosecuted in an International court of law for War Crimes or Crimes against Humanity and Corruption.

Also, I would like to see Blair, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Mugabi as well as those responsible for the killings in Darfur, Congo etc. to be tried before and international court of law for War Crimes, Crimes against Humanity and Corruption.

The problem I find with Darfur, Sudan, Somali, Congo and similar War or Killing Zones is trying to make sense of what is happening (no doubt Charts will find it easy to make a nonsense out of these areas). For me they seem to be almost confused states of banditry, which are often manipulated from outside the states.

But, what I would like to know is, who is financing and providing the armaments for the various groups. I think, if this was revealed, it might provide a useful insight into possible international corruption.



Meanwhile, the address for the humanitarian appeal for the Gaza state is: http://www.dec.org.uk

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 13:33 - 615 of 6906

PS. I would also like the following individuals, if they are alive, to appear in and International Court of Law for Crimes against Humanity.
Osama bin Laden, Aimon Muhammad Rabaie al-Zawahiri.


MrCharts - 27 Jan 2009 13:40 - 616 of 6906

Steam coming out of my ears?
No, more like sorrow for the suffering in the world - and sadness at a wasted intellect; but not tears for the latter. There can be none for those who drip vitriol and venom.

I'm so glad you now recognise - after my prompting - other terrible things happening in the world.
All of a sudden.
Perhaps one or two things are dawning on you when you reflect on some of the things you have said.
Or perhaps not, maybe I'm being my usual optimistic and forgiving self; or just naive.
Your attempts at "even-handedness" are laughable, not to mention somewhat belated..........
Early in this thread I thought maybe the scales might fall from your eyes, even when you demonstrated complete irrationality. I now realise that is a forlorn hope.
I don't think I will bother reading or writing here again, as it's a waste of time.
I even think the best thing is to hope others come to the same conclusion and leave you in an empty echo chamber to enjoy listening to your own stuck needle and those of your like minded.
And with apologies to Dylan Thomas, you can,
"Rage, Rage, Against the Dawning of the Light".

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 13:48 - 617 of 6906

Shoot the messenger once again!


http://www.dec.org.uk

hilary - 27 Jan 2009 13:51 - 618 of 6906

Blimey Fred. If Gaza were a stock, you'd be able to ramp the price double in a fortnight.

:o)

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 14:06 - 619 of 6906

If I was so lucky!!

Gausie - 27 Jan 2009 14:12 - 620 of 6906

Fred - you forgot to plug dec.

It's important to raise money for these gallant heroes who fought to the very last human shield.

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 14:19 - 621 of 6906

Gausie, I apologise, I am sorry. Especially for you:

http://www.dec.org.uk

Ruth - 27 Jan 2009 14:46 - 622 of 6906

Fred,did you have problems viewing the utube video clip? did the link not work for you?
only you havnt made any comments on it yet?
maybe it made for uncomfortable viewing hey Fred?

Are you going to condemn hamas for their actions/brainwashing involving innocent children in that video or not,?

Fred1new - 27 Jan 2009 14:49 - 623 of 6906

Charts, That was no way to say goodbye.

Try it like below:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfSdq2R9IA

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AaPa6NspXuI&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0p6BbecNo&feature=related


My thanks to Banjomick

Ruth - 27 Jan 2009 15:26 - 624 of 6906

Fred, what is wrong with you,
why wont you comment on that video,
surely even you can find it in your heart to admit its not acceptable behaviour?
Or maybe you think it is acceptable behaviour,?

So which one is it Fred, dont go all shy on me now,its not a difficult question
Are you going to condemn the hamas adults actions in that video or not?

Mr Charts, when did you loose the MR title from your screen name,
Fred seems to have picked up a bad habit of now calling you charts,
maybe he thinks it makes him sound a bit more authorative,

Gausie - 27 Jan 2009 22:25 - 625 of 6906

Pressie for you Ruth

FRED-0100.jpg

maestro - 27 Jan 2009 23:07 - 626 of 6906

bet it was a zionist firm that made it

Gausie - 27 Jan 2009 23:13 - 627 of 6906

Zonist firms always seem to make it. It's part of the conspiracy, maestro.

chocolat - 27 Jan 2009 23:18 - 628 of 6906

You found a vroooom-baa for me yet?

Ruth - 28 Jan 2009 08:38 - 629 of 6906

Gausie, thanks;-)
can you find one with a rocket instead of a pen that i can ram up his arse;-)


Notice Fred still hasnt commented on that shocking hamas children video?
cant say im surprised really, its not the first time hes failed to answer on something that blatantly goes against the rose tinted glasses hes become accustomed to wearing.

Bury, head and sand springs to mind
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