Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

hay it is you who is stupid a dimwit I am all right jack arsehole

Someones blinked!

Neo-fascist wing.

Where has that bloody waiter got to.

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After the sneering has finished it may be realised and accepted that some were screwing Greece, while packing valuables and looting Greece!

I don't see that Greeks had any better solution.

I think that their decision to hold a referendum shows courage and is democratic in the situation.

It is the Junta which has overplayed their hand.

2:58 pm

Alexis Tsipras, the Greek prime minister, has asked eurozone authorities for a new, third bailout in a dramatic bid to try and secure a financial lifeline hours before the country’s current rescue deal expires.

when is the evil merkil going to pay back the money that they did in the war
murdering good people while they were the evil devils

come on Germany pay your debts to the world

Greek debt has now been abolished and doesn't count.

Until the UK leave the EU, a major part of the Greek debt will now be paid by UK tax payers, not withstanding that the debt was/is in Euros and this currency doesn't count for UK citizens anyhow.

I think we should try this dodge ourselves (if we aren't already doing so).

It is the Greek PM that is panicking. He knows that if it goes to a referendum he is finished.

We hold very little of the Greek debt. Only our banks have a small amount. Germany takes the biggest hit then France and Italy. W don't contribute to bailout as we are not in Eurozone.

Doc,

Did Tanker tell you that, or was it in the Daily Mail?

This what the BBC is saying

The Greek government has requested a new bailout deal from the eurozone, just hours before it must repay €1.6bn (£1.1bn) to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Greece is asking for a new two-year €29.1bn aid deal from a bailout mechanism for eurozone countries.

And Angie Baby had a two word reply. The second word was 'off'.

As my husband said, "I wouldn't argue wiv dat dem bitch".

It doesn't matter how much they borrow......all it does is just push the massive problem to a later date saving politician's faces....they won't be able to repay that either.....these loans should really be over a fifty year period....that way Greece could get itself sorted .....but even with that, will they sort themselves out ?....I have my doubts....

There's no incentive for the Greek pols to sort it out...as rf pointed out, they are never going to pay it back, so why not go for a few more loans?

Can kicking on a monumental scale, watched over by peeps who are not going to be there to take the blame, and so don't give a toss as long as they save face.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-01/europes-controlled-demolition

CNN reporting that Greek PM has backed down and accepted the deal he was originally offered. He has chickened out of losing the referendum on Sunday. There have been big demos in Greece in favour of Yes.

It is interesting that the Greek finance minister, who has been having the discussions with the lenders, is an academic economist and not a politician. He is also a mathematical statistician and a world authority in game theory. That last item may explain the brinkmanship and bizzare behaviour of the Greeks. I think he was under the impression that the lenders would blink first.

the real question is what deal has been done behind closed doors
racing certainty that tsipras now won't resign either; power is too great an aphrodisiac

One that the €urohuggers will want to avoid...


http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-01/europe-wants-to-punish-greece-with-exit