Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

You summed it up nicely in #61133 c!


"assuredly greece cannot ever pay off the debt as it stands"


Which is what anyone with any sense is saying, including Tsipras, but excluding the teutonic section, who are insisting on blood (plus the head)

When the bubbles got their first bailout in 2010 they promised cuts of something like 50bn € in return for the money, which they promised would be obtained through various means. That figure then went down to 30bn € after they took the dosh, and after 5 years they've actually saved about 2bn €.

If only they'd stuck to their side of the deal as Portugal and Ireland did, they'd be fine now. As I said the other day, this is a problem of their own making. They've welched on their side of the deal, and the troika are right to tell them to fcuk off imo.

ah but as i have also said, there must most certainly (i hope!) be a rather different hidden agenda, should tsipras fall on his sword as promised ...... also as posted before, lots of dirty politics being played out

that's great hils provided you're not one of the glicks on the street

It's the glicks on the street who voted the muppets in, Cyners. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Btw, WikiLeaks tweeted earlier that they're gonna drop a bombshell tonight re France, Germany and Greece.

Maybe Angie's into kinky threesomes? :o)

Syriza had nothing to do with the debacle that went on before it got into power, that was the other "responsible" Greek politicians.

Indeed the whole bail-out scheme was not of Syriza's making, that was the previous mob as well.

Syriza promised something they'd never be able to deliver. More fool those glicks on the street if they were stupid enough to believe them.

The French are quite open minded about legovers hilly, not at all sure about the Germans...and the Greeks, lol, don't bend over.

Hope springs eternal hilly, what else were the greek public to vote for, more of the same?

the average joe does not get any say in the reality of political life and economics

It's their problem who they vote for, Max. Not mine.

very glib .... so i take it you accept responsibility for GB selling off gold cheap and similar

No. I never voted for the fool.

Though, to his credit, he did keep the UK out of the EZ.

but the greek populace all voted for the previous bunch?
no more i'm sure than uk voters did for GB, MT or AB

Cyners,

GB was unelected. He got in by default, and he fcuked it up in no time.

But MT and AB were probably the best two prime ministers the UK has had in living memory.

so you're happy to accept responsibility for the bad that they both did?

What bad?

AB?

Yes, Haystack, I never voted for him personally, but he certainly knew that Labour had to move to the centre ground because they wouldn't win anything being positioned on the left as they had been.

He allowed people to aspire to something, and everybody I know became either millionaires or multi-millionaires while he was in charge. I see no wrong in that.