Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

that's great hils provided you're not one of the glicks on the street

It's the glicks on the street who voted the muppets in, Cyners. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Btw, WikiLeaks tweeted earlier that they're gonna drop a bombshell tonight re France, Germany and Greece.

Maybe Angie's into kinky threesomes? :o)

Syriza had nothing to do with the debacle that went on before it got into power, that was the other "responsible" Greek politicians.

Indeed the whole bail-out scheme was not of Syriza's making, that was the previous mob as well.

Syriza promised something they'd never be able to deliver. More fool those glicks on the street if they were stupid enough to believe them.

The French are quite open minded about legovers hilly, not at all sure about the Germans...and the Greeks, lol, don't bend over.

Hope springs eternal hilly, what else were the greek public to vote for, more of the same?

the average joe does not get any say in the reality of political life and economics

It's their problem who they vote for, Max. Not mine.

very glib .... so i take it you accept responsibility for GB selling off gold cheap and similar

No. I never voted for the fool.

Though, to his credit, he did keep the UK out of the EZ.

but the greek populace all voted for the previous bunch?
no more i'm sure than uk voters did for GB, MT or AB

Cyners,

GB was unelected. He got in by default, and he fcuked it up in no time.

But MT and AB were probably the best two prime ministers the UK has had in living memory.

so you're happy to accept responsibility for the bad that they both did?

What bad?

AB?

Yes, Haystack, I never voted for him personally, but he certainly knew that Labour had to move to the centre ground because they wouldn't win anything being positioned on the left as they had been.

He allowed people to aspire to something, and everybody I know became either millionaires or multi-millionaires while he was in charge. I see no wrong in that.

Woman's Hour Power List 2015: Nicola Sturgeon beats Angelina Jolie to the top spot

Nicola Sturgeon has beaten Anna Wintour, Angelina Jolie and Caitlyn Jenner to be named the most influential woman of the year in a "power list" compiled by BBC Radio 4 Woman's Hour





Emma Barnett, Woman's Hour presenter and Telegraph women's editor, chaired the judging panel.

She said: "Of course Nicola Sturgeon has huge power in a traditional sense, as the leader of the SNP. But she also wields a huge amount of influence right now because of the state of both the UK union and the European one.

"Ahead of the in-out referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union, how she chooses to wield that influence over the public and her fellow political leaders could have potentially huge ramifications for this country. She is the woman of the moment in terms of influence and hard power.”

Anna Wintour, the US Vogue editor-in-chief, is second. "Anna Wintour influences the world in what to wear, how to look, and who to celebrate," the panel said, praising her as a "quiet, dignified presence" and fashion influencer "whose word is almost law".


Third is Angelina Jolie, the actress who has used her celebrity to influence government policy and whose openness about her cancer treatment has had a powerful effect on women's health.

Caitlyn Jenner "trumped all others in the celebrity stakes" when she appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair and showed great courage in coming out so publicly, the judges said.








More undiluted shit here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11709944/Nicola-Sturgeon-beats-Angelina-Jolie-to-top-spot-in-Womans-Hour-list.html

hilary - AB and the iraq war will do for starters ...... MT and the brutal destruction of much UK industrial base albeit, and depending on which side of the political fence you sit, that it was the inevitable and very necessary result of cutting the militant unions' power and deemed the lesser of two evils

Cyners,

AB and the Iraq war - I'd have done the same, and modern-day game theory dictates it was the right thing to do at the time.

MT and the destruction of the UK industrial base - what industrial base and what destruction? It was already dead and buried, and had been so for a couple of decades before Maggie took office; The unions needed to have their stranglehold cut and I'd have done the same as Maggie. The only pity is that the UK were too short-sighted to head in the same direction as Germany and Japan following WW2.