Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Cyners,

AB and the Iraq war - I'd have done the same, and modern-day game theory dictates it was the right thing to do at the time.

MT and the destruction of the UK industrial base - what industrial base and what destruction? It was already dead and buried, and had been so for a couple of decades before Maggie took office; The unions needed to have their stranglehold cut and I'd have done the same as Maggie. The only pity is that the UK were too short-sighted to head in the same direction as Germany and Japan following WW2.

the whole basis of the iraq war was one HUGE LIE

anyway, you can rest smugly in your lovely chalet or three while preaching to the average greek joe that he has got exactly what he deserves ..... pity you are not one who has to live there and suffer accordingly; that might change your tune somewhat

Greece is not our problem. They have elected a stupid government, that would not have stood a chance if things were going swimmingly. We have enough problems when we occasionally elect a stupid government. It is the same when any other country behaves that way. It might as well be Somalia, Zimbabwe or anywhere. As Hillary said, they borrowed money and promised they would make changes as a condition. They didn't make hardly any and now they want more and probably won't make any again. It has to be a tough response otherwise cut them loose. They will rapidly return to where they were before the Euro, which was a borderline 3rd world country and a good holiday destination.

Are you turning socialista c?


btw, I agree.

Dear God Haystack, have you lost sight of what actually went on?


The nu boys only took over a few months ago, from the guys who really fucked it up, and you want solutions?



Are you quite bonkers Haystack?

The austerity was working before the change of government. The new government immediately reversed many of the measures. They reemployed public employees, reversed pension cuts and other things that Greece cannot afford. They refuse to raise the pension age to even what we have.the current government has been a disaster.

There is a political dimension to this. There are elections in the autumn in Spain and Portugal. They have very left wing anti austerity parties similar to Greece's and want to reneg on loans. Being tough on Greece is sending a message to these countries not to elect a government like Greece's.

the uk should cut all pensions to pensioners who have only lived in the uk for less than 25 years by half

You could always the Greeks IDS, he knows like Hairy One and Hazy One what to do!

Or the icon of Tory mis-leadership!

Fred the election is over ??? lots more other problems in the world for you to debate now .

Which election?

Why not try the in out of the EU ,you'll have 18 months of debate ahead of you.

Harman the stupid thick woman it is crap like her and her shit husband that is destroying the labour party what a stupid dimwit clown talking shit again
the public stopped voting lab because of shit like her

PORTUGAL
i don't know what "model" gov't they have here, but talking from lisbon, it certainly looks to be working with massive improvements throughout the city and many new businesses springing up

whatever hays may think, i don't think anything stupid will be done here following the next elections

What happened over the road cynic ? it seems not much happened no one posts there ,did it not take off with the old crowd who moved ?

confess i have abandoned it ...... there were a couple of good sites, but got bored with lack of others ...... surprised not to have heard direct from GF

Ian,

Is it time to have GF back?

I can guess the problems.

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JB,

The problem for over the wall for me is that the lay out is off putting and learning the key strokes irritating.

In spite of recent problems Moneyam layout is more comfortable seems simpler and for me informative.

Content wise it is good except for a few posters.

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For me it is a pity that GF blew it, for much of his postings were in general lucid and the chart thread informative.

T'is a pity.

Miss his challenges.

I don't like the site at all .I like mam for all it's recent troubles it's still the only BB i ever use ,generally good old folk on here .

Yes a shame that GF's gone he was the first one on here that i used to communicate with over 10 years ago .

I thought you were a little older than that!

8-)

PS.

Set in your ways!

8-)