Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

Ahoy

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I think the most efficient route to peace is education. We had over 50 years to educate the people of that region, but didn't do that. Now internet is helping a lot, time will resolve the issues, I believe."

You are entitle to your belief and in some ways I would agree with you, but many of the areas we plundered were previously educated to a better standard than our own although they social concepts and "morality" were different, but were perhaps in a period of decadence rather than social evolution

(The UK is to-day sliding into such a relative state of decline.)

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Tanker,

Change seats and read back through your previous e-mails and I think you may observe that you preach violence more than the majority who spout on this thread.

That is your entitlement,but you may be able to question your remarks from your more obvious antagonists.

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Haystack,

At 73 I am still dyslexic, but thanks to multiple decisions and insights earlier and the computer with its spelling checkers etc. I am able to write "prose", which at least I can understand myself.

But I sometimes wish tinker would develop a little more insight, unless he is taking the "Mick".

If so I congratulate him.

Perhaps, I would appreciate in contributions more.

However, we do agree on some things.

Perhaps, one day it may be worth a beer or a glass of the Beaujolais Noveau, which I am drinking at the moment. Tastes better than usual.

Perhaps worth laying down some Burgundies for next few years.

Don't challenge that. Just try some Rhone 2011s.

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N,

Did I miss anything before the ..

Regards.

BN is crap - it was just a very clever marketing ploy dreamt up in 70s if i recollect correctly, to shift a stack of very average and acidic gamay grape juice ....

do not confuse beaujolais (gamay) with burgundy (pinot noir), for they have nothing to do with each other .... i would also have very grave doubts that 2012 burgundy - very difficult to make really good stuff in the best of years - will be worth buying at all, at least for a private cellar.

on the other hand, if you can get hold of 2009 (and 2010 from memory) beaujolais villages (fleurie, moulin a vent etc) from really good producers (forget the negociants like jadot, duboeuf and that ilk), then grab it .... the really good ones still have several years improvement and life

Cynic,

I was suggesting for personal abuse not investment.

Over the years have sampled more than I should have of Burgundies and Bn.

I prefer Burgs to Bordeaux, but refused to pay the price expected for them.

Some of the years I bought BNs and kept for 2-3 years and in spite of what is generally conceived they improved. (Not all years.)

Generally, kept when there was a lot of "body" to them.

The BN I have tasted so far have had good body and seem worth a chance at their prices.

You can always uses them for cooking or pickling lamb and presenting it as venison, if they are not good enough to drink.

But as you can see I suffer from poor taste.

8-)

Ps.

I agree with your view on the false hype on BN, but also remember sitting in the sun and drinking cases of it around the BBQ during some barmy summers in the 70s and 80s.

(Even insured my liver!)

Cynic,

This is the wrong B. Thread.

Start a different one!

8~)

You old soak Fred, tip don't post when pissed! voice of experience. :O)

gaza is run by terrorists the people voted to be in bed with HAMAS a terrorist gov
if you get in to bed with rats they are going to eat you .
hamas are lower than rats they are slime .
hamas are steaking the money from aid buying propertys
for there way out not one HAMAS leader will retire in gaza
are the people of gaza so bloody stupid .
if you send rockets in to some one elses homes
do you expect them to say thank you .
if it was mine i would destroy them for good of man kind .

sub humans like SLIME HAY are the problems

"if it was mine i would destroy them for good of man kind"


Do you mean your kind?

I would think the majority would stop the bus and get off!

morning fred
not one person in the uk would not take action .
we are not yellow bellys
we do not hide behind babys and old women
like hamas
hamas are slime of the lowest order

going for a run .
back monday

Thats a long run. :-))

Not arf! didn't know you were into marathons Tanks.. apart from the one on here of course -):

Massive Israeli Strike-back on Gaza Strip (Disturbing Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sgl0JnE4B_4

Fred - try pinot from Washington State or Oregon .... they're not cheap, but very good indeed and still cheaper than top grower burgundy ...... some surprisingly good wines from Sicily which i recommend you investigate

Hope the running is addictive and tinker continues in a new found occupation.

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Cynic,

Only just driven up from Beaune.

I have tried some Americans and enjoyed them.

But in all honesty my pallette is described as poor and wanting.

Mainly something not to strong, wet and red.

My daughter has an export- import wine company which flogs Australian wine to Italy, France and Spain and imports for some of the major restaurants etc in Australia.

She doesn't think much of my taste in many things.

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Sorry American wines not Americans.


Wine production has or seems to have improved tremendously over the last 40 years, and surprisingly the cheaper wines seem to me very good.

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Have nice evening with a enjoyable bottle of what you takes your fancy.

i would still recommend you try pinot from WS and O -imo much better than those from CA

from sicily, it's worth getting hold of I Vigneri 2010 (about £20.00) ... though it's 14%, it does not drink anything like that heavy .... if you're interested, i'll look out the invoice at my office ..... the uk supplier has a great range of really unusual italian wines

Cynic,

Thank you.

I will take your advice. But my vices generally cost me a lot less that you are able to afford.

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Also, I think in view of what is happening in Israel and Gaza this thread is not the right one for hedonism.

That is nice and pompous, but rolled of the tongue, but is sincere.

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I think the Israeli actions are appalling and will eventually be found to be misguided.

An eye for an eye is a primitive response and does not lead I to any possible healing process.

The Israeli people are being poorly led at present and I am saddened by Obama's quoted response to the present murderous actions.

The ME has changed since the "spring" and maybe more organised in its retaliation to the "murder" which is being heaped upon some "innocents".

The action disgusts me and many people I have recently spoken to.

That does not mean that the Palestinians are without fault, but I do think they are being abused by inhuman tactics and a disregard of their human rights.

I believe you are a Jew and have read your posts over the years, and although I can understand some of your cynicism and perhaps, that myself being a cynical B. have sometimes similar doubts, but strangely, I am an optimist and think that fair solutions are possible. (What is there without hope.)

As stated, previously I have had Jewish friends and even Jewish girls friends, when I was younger, and hold nothing against the "race", religion, or culture, but I do disagree with abuses of one "race" by another based on false premises.

(Criticism, I think should be tolerated.)

What Israel is doing in the M.E. at present is no better that the Fascist did to the Jews in the thirties and forties.

The actions were appalling and so are the actions of the Israeli administration over the recent years.

The Germans people let themselves down by succumbing to "propaganda" similarly to many Israelis and Jews to-day.

Very much to be regretted but not surprising


Video: Hamas warns it will renew suicide attacks
By JPOST.COM STAFF
11/17/2012 22:48
Hamas's armed wing on Saturday night released a Hebrew-language video warning that it would renew its deadly suicide bombing campaign in Israel.

Introduced with a message "from the Palestinian nation to the Zionists," the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades video added "We have missed the suicide [bombs]... wait for us soon in stores, buses and cafes."

Crazy, but to be expected!

I don't understand why the conflict was triggerred again. Innocent people have been killed and many more will suffer again. Both sides are suffering.

Is anyone going to benefit from this?