Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic . Cameron will sell out the uk but the back benchers will revolt my pm
sent me a e mail yesterday saying she will vote out

They are planning to use the EFSM as loan money (European Financial Stabilisation Mechanism). We may have to stump up £1b with no veto as it is voted on by majority. The fund is outside the Eurozone and all EU members contribute to it.

cynic when I post something on the eu it is always correct .

watch cnn they always tell facts and figures

never listen to the stinking bbc you will never get facts

Like this comment from the above article:-

Play them at their own game - we'll lend you the 1bn euros to help Greece, provided you put up Siemens and BMW as collateral..

hays post tells you why we must get out and bring the vote forward has soon as pos

the eu is rotten to the core

You just know we're going to contribute don't you , by hook or by crook they will get money out of us .

We will all be like Greece if the EU gets its way

The humiliating terms imposed on Greece show just how far the EU will go to snuff out any hint of sovereignty in its member states



Alexis Tsipras has let his own people down badly in accepting the deal Photo: Reuters



By Nigel Farage

8:02AM BST 14 Jul 2015



What we are seeing in Europe is the complete and total failure of supranationalism. While cooperation between independent nations has always been important, the last few weeks have laid totally bare the European Union's brand of authoritarian dogma. Much of what I have been warning about for many years indeed is playing out on the world stage - a Greek tragedy that beggars belief.


For many years in the European Parliament I have done my best to point out how the EU's bullying tactics are not just undemocratic, but anti-democratic. I have been derided, called names, and so on (don't worry, I can take it). But now, with the EU's nauseating approach to Greek sovereignty, it is clear that more and more people are waking up to the dangers of this supranational beast sweeping aside national sovereignty completely. Many who had continued to believe until very recently that the EU was compassionate and forward-looking are beginning to realise just how backwards the whole project is.



More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11737773/We-will-all-be-like-Greece-if-the-EU-gets-its-way.html

i'm not entirely convinced that we have seen the end of this greek drama even in the immediate short term - and that is why i am modestly short DOW

the shenanigans of whether or not uk should be bulldozed, or whatever other term you wish to use, into contributing to any greek bailout fund when it has been expressly agreed that uk should not be so obliged, will be another little saga to follow
as i wrote a number of times about the main greek saga, there will be much discussion and negotiation behind the scenes, the public announcements often having little bearing on actuality

the question now is [ Osborne] as said we will not put in any money .
so if the uk now puts in money he will be a liar and should resign

Cameron to step down before the uk votes on the eu ?

The previous method that might have been used to make us put money in for Greece was blocked by Cameron. The EU has come up with a different method that we cannot block.

Exactly WHY I for one will vote to exit this circus.

that being so, it stinks - so no surprise there - and will assuredly strengthen the hand of the eurosceptics
however, what eventually transpires may well be different, or as seen through smoke and mirrors

The SNP say they will vote against the fox hunting amendment Bill on Wednesday. That's great as it will increase the call for English votes for English laws. If the government passes the English law bill then they will reintroduce the fox hunting bill later. The SNP may just have committed suicide.

It's a bit like that £1.7 billion we had to pay a while back , due to us hitting a certain GDP or something . We had to do a deal over that , but they got it off us .

The government has withdrawn the vote on fox hunting. They will get it passed after they pass the English Laws for English MPs. I suspect that this may have been deliberate tactics by Cameron to turn the MPs against SNP.

DON'T MISS THIS AUCTION!!
it is certain that everything will have been designed in the very best possible taste :-))

The home, at 2-8a Rutland Gate in Knightsbridge, is set to become Britain’s most expensive house, if a reported private bid of £280 million is accepted.

The property could have come with an eye-watering collection of 1,200 items, ranging from £70,000 chandeliers to £300,000 gold plated bath taps ...... which are being sold off in a separate auction over two days this week. The contents of the house are thought to be worth £50 million, yet may only fetch as little as £500,000 in an ‘everything must go’ sale.

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M/E culture is that nothing is ever bought second-hand .... this is one of the very good reasons why there is no market in places like dubai for these swanky so-called investment pads that the gullible were conned into as an investment

Do you have a link for that c?

i picked up on line on Yahoo News

Here is a link to the auction