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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 26 Jul 2015 13:57 - 61689 of 81564

How Arctic ice has made fools of all those poor warmists

The belief that the ice was vanishing has been for the warmists the ultimate poster-child for their cause

Two events last week brought yet further twists to one of the longest-running farces of our modern world. One was the revelation by the European Space Agency that in 2013 and 2014, after years when the volume of Arctic ice had been diminishing, it increased again by as much as 33 per cent. The other was that Canadian scientists studying the effect of climate change on Arctic ice from an icebreaker had to suspend their research, when their vessel was called to the aid of other ships trapped in the thickest summer ice seen in Hudson Bay for 20 years.

For more than a decade now, the belief that, thanks to global warming, Arctic ice was vanishing has been for the warmists the ultimate poster-child for their cause (along with those “vanishing” polar bears). In 2007, with the aid of scientists such as Wieslaw Maslowski and Peter Wadhams, the BBC and others were telling us that the Arctic would be totally “ice free by 2013” (the Independent even cleared its front page to announce that the ice could all have disappeared within weeks).

By 2011, the BBC’s science editor Richard Black was telling us that the ice would “probably be gone within this decade”. In 2012, his colleague Roger Harrabin was reporting that the sea ice was now melting so fast that more had vanished that summer than “at any time since satellite records began”.

So taken in had others been by all these dire predictions, that in 2008 the activist Gordon Lewis Pugh, after speaking at a conference alongside

Al Gore, set out to paddle a kayak to the North Pole – only to have to abort his trip after a few days because “the ice was too thick”. In 2009, the three-man Caitlin expedition, sponsored by a “climate risk” insurance company, and backed by the BBC and the Prince of Wales, set out to walk to the North Pole. Their intention was to measure the thickness of the vanishing ice with an electronic instrument, but it froze so hard that they had to resort to a tape measure. Again, after a few weeks, they had to be airlifted back to a rescue ship because the constantly shifting ice was “too thick”.

In December 2013, the world followed agog the plight of yet another “scientific expedition”, when 52 climate activists, accompanied by reporters from the BBC and the Guardian, sailed into the Antarctic to measure the effects of global warming on its sea-ice. By Christmas their ship was so dangerously trapped by thick, multi-year ice that they had to be helicoptered to a Chinese ship 10 miles away, which itself then got so trapped in ice that they had to be airlifted again to two other ships even further away.

What made all this particularly absurd was that, despite being led by an Australian scientist, they were so taken in by the make-believe that they seemed quite oblivious to the satellite records showing that Antarctic sea-ice had long been expanding to such record levels that these more than matched any decline in the Arctic ice at the other end of the world. But wasn’t the whole point of this warming that it was meant to be “global”?

Of course, the reason why they have all wanted the ice at the poles to melt, not least on the land in Antarctica and Greenland, is that this would bring about their ultimate scare scenario: those sea levels rising by as much as 20 feet, which, as Al Gore showed in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth, would flood New York, Shanghai and many of the world’s most populous cities.

But, alas, it just isn’t happening. In recent years there has been more polar ice in the world than at any time since satellite records began in 1979. In the very year they had forecast that the Arctic would be “ice free”, its thickness increased by a third. Polar bear numbers are rising, not falling. Temperatures in Greenland have shown no increase for decades.

The greatest scare story of all simply isn’t turning out as their computer models predicted. And no one has been more dangerously taken in by this silly scare story than the warmists themselves.

ExecLine - 26 Jul 2015 16:08 - 61690 of 81564

Alders

It would seem to me, that I have tuned into Hilary's wave length and we both assume you are also going to benefit from commissions resultant from those who start trading as a result of clicking on your introductory affiliate link.

Another alternative, is that you are not (going to personally benefit from supplying the affiliate link on here, even though this web site (ie. MAM) is a good target location to have done so) and that the provision of your link has been done in an altruistic and informative way for the benefit of the users of this forum (ie. MAM's forum).

Now, it does surprise me, that you haven't tuned into the same wavelength.

Hmmm?

deltazero - 26 Jul 2015 17:30 - 61691 of 81564

Lord SEWER LOL!:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33667676

Haystack - 26 Jul 2015 22:12 - 61692 of 81564

Nice that Chris Froome has won the Tour de France. Even nicer that no French person has won it for more than 30 years.

MaxK - 26 Jul 2015 23:34 - 61693 of 81564

MaxK - 27 Jul 2015 08:24 - 61694 of 81564

cynic - 27 Jul 2015 08:37 - 61695 of 81564

as i wrote yesterday, you may object to JC's politics, but he speaks and presents very well indeed ...... as of course did Derek Hatton and several others of similar persuasion

of course DH has very much switched horses and is now a property developer!

MaxK - 27 Jul 2015 09:20 - 61696 of 81564

The usual story with Labour.

Anyone who can, wont!

Which leaves the also-rans to spend the next ten years squabbling amongst themselves.


Cameroon and the lesser spotted Millibandus must be gutted.

ExecLine - 27 Jul 2015 09:41 - 61697 of 81564

Wiki tells us Derek Hatton was a property developer in Cyprus.

As he was such a fascinating 'sharply dressed dodgy spiv' of a character, the following interesting read of an article didn't surprise me at all:

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2009/01/17/dodgy-cyprus-property-deals-made-hatton-millions/id=00717

Wiki also says, "It emerged on 28 May 2015 that Hatton had attempted to rejoin the Labour Party two days after Labour's defeat in the 2015 general election. His application was rejected by Iain McNicol, the party's general secretary."

At the time he was chucked out of the party, his ideas and actions contributed to making Labour completely unelectable.

Fred1new - 27 Jul 2015 09:52 - 61698 of 81564

Reminds me of:

Tory leader ousted
Iain Duncan Smith flanked by shadow cabinet colleagues
Iain Duncan Smith bows out after his defeat
Iain Duncan Smith has lost his job as Conservative Party leader after narrowly failing to win the backing of enough MPs in a vote of confidence.
Mr Duncan Smith, opposition leader for just over two years, was backed by 75 MPs but opposed by 90.

The vote sparks the fourth Tory leadership election in eight years, with former home secretary Michael Howard emerging as the strong favourite.

One possible rival, David Davis, has already said he is backing Mr Howard in the leadership contest, saying he had decided to turn down requests to run himself.

Moderniser Tim Yeo has also decided against entering the contest, while shadow home secretary Oliver Letwin, shadow health secretary Liam Fox and former cabinet minister Stephen Dorrell all urged Mr Howard to bid for the leadership.

But Mr Howard has so far stayed silent about his next move.


=-=-=-=-=-=-

Typically, for the tories, the fights were all behind one another's backs!

ExecLine - 27 Jul 2015 10:28 - 61699 of 81564

Professor Stephen Hawking on 'AI':

"One can imagine such technology outsmarting financial markets, out-inventing human researchers, out-manipulating human leaders, and developing weapons we cannot even understand," Hawking said in an article he co-wrote in May for The Independent.

"Whereas the short-term impact of AI depends on who controls it, the long-term impact depends on whether it can be controlled at all."


Today marks the start of Hawking doing a Q&A session on Reddit's AMA (ask me anything)

Most people do these 'AMA thingies' by answering questions straight away but Hawking will not be able to answer so quickly because of his handicap and so might take as long as 3 weeks to do so.

We often read on here about traders using 'robotics' to trade. I wonder if Hawking has one himself?

More HERE

MaxK - 27 Jul 2015 11:05 - 61700 of 81564

Lord Sewel 'will not quit' after he is pictured in prostitute's orange bra at cocaine sex party

John Sewel, the disgraced House of Lords Deputy Speaker, can still claim £300-a-day after apparently snorting cocaine with prostitutes






naughty, but his observations on some of our politicians are spot on!


Lord Sewel of Gilcomstoun, 69, is said to have been recorded branding David Cameron "the most facile, superficial prime minister there's ever been" during the session with two £200-a-night prostitutes at his Dolphin Square flat in Westminster.

He reportedly said: "He just shoots from the hip. He is false. He makes one-off commitments and cannot deliver."


He labelled Mayor of London Boris Johnson "a joke" and a "public school upper class twit", adding: "He plays well in London because they like a cheeky chappie.

"Can you present Boris Johnson in Preston, in Burnley, in Manchester? No, they just think he's an a---hole."

Lord Sewel, who was responsible for upholding standards in the Lords, also described Scottish MP Alex Salmond as a "silly, pompous prat", according to footage obtained by The Sun.

Asked by one of the women, whose voice is disguised, about former Labour prime minister Tony Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq, Lord Sewel said the former party leader did so "because he fell in love with George Bush".

He claimed Blair's wife, Cherie, was "obsessed with money".








More good stuff here:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11764755/Lord-Sewel-will-not-quit-after-he-is-pictured-in-prostitutes-orange-bra-at-cocaine-sex-party.html

Fred1new - 27 Jul 2015 11:17 - 61701 of 81564

I thought it was a picture of Ashcroft.

Where is he now?

aldwickk - 27 Jul 2015 13:02 - 61702 of 81564

Nothing changes on here , Fred changes the subject onto Lord Ashgroft

Haystack - 27 Jul 2015 13:10 - 61703 of 81564

Not only a Labour peer, but a Labour government Minister.

Fred1new - 27 Jul 2015 13:42 - 61704 of 81564

I thought the Bullingdon Club was set up for this sort of behaviour.

MaxK - 27 Jul 2015 14:39 - 61705 of 81564

Haystack - 27 Jul 2015 14:56 - 61706 of 81564

Whatever happens, Labour are heading for the wilderness.

ExecLine - 27 Jul 2015 19:27 - 61707 of 81564

for the last few years, say around just half a decade, we've been so used to looking at and listening to LOTS of well known Labour party senior politicians on our TVs.

Now they've nearly ALL gone.

I looked at the current list of Shadow Cabinet members. Of 'popular' note are:

Harriet Harman, Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham, Chuka Umunna, Caroline Flint, Hilary Benn and Chris Bryant. The rest are quite new 'names'.

When you look at who has disappeared from the Labour scene, the list of big 'Names' is truly massive.

i think they are in the wilderness already.
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