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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 06 Aug 2015 08:01 - 61907 of 81564

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 08:30 - 61908 of 81564

TANKER - 06 Aug 2015 08:53 - 61909 of 81564

to take over 130k a year to run a charity is a dam disgrace .
most people work in helping people for nothing to take more than a living wage is
no more than being a crook .
she did nothing only spend the money winning and dinning friends jollies
and paying family wages well above the living wage and the white workers in Bristol
as little as possible

TANKER - 06 Aug 2015 08:54 - 61910 of 81564

she should be charged with fraud

2517GEORGE - 06 Aug 2015 09:13 - 61911 of 81564

No I haven't tried running a charity Fred.
2517

TANKER - 06 Aug 2015 09:24 - 61912 of 81564

Fury over £234,000 salary of the top boss at Save the Children: Charity chiefs' huge wages must be reined in, say MPs
High earner, thought to be Jasmine Whitbread, among 20 earning over £100k
Another nine on six-figure salaries at charity's UK arm
Surpassed by highest paid employee at Marie Stopes - who earns £290k
MPs today condemned the pay rates and secrecy surrounding figures

the charity is for the directors .
never give another penny to charity





















ExecLine - 06 Aug 2015 09:34 - 61913 of 81564

My son's American University tutoring was correct:

1. If you are going to set up your own business, then try to set it up as a charity. The tax treatment is amazingly generous.
2. Pay yourself a generous salary and expenses and live well out of it.
3. If you don't want to bother with 'set-up costs' then go and work for someone else's charity, preferably the bigger the better. All the awkward questions will hav ealready been asked and the answers dealt with satisfactorily.

Lastly,

Most 'chuggers' earn around 50% commission on donations fixed to 'direct debit bank payments'.

'Chugger' (noun)

British informal defintion:

A person who approaches passers-by in the street asking for subscriptions or donations to a particular charity:
As in "when you have chuggers outside your shop, people just cross the road"

How much do chuggers cost?

2517GEORGE - 06 Aug 2015 09:36 - 61914 of 81564

It would be interesting to know the total amount the government gives, on behalf of the taxpayers, to all registered charities.
2517

ExecLine - 06 Aug 2015 09:39 - 61915 of 81564

"No business can make money without spending money and fundraising is no different.

The real danger behind this story is the perpetuation of a myth that charities run solely on the goodwill of free volunteers and should never spend any money on anything other than the good causes they support.

Yes there is wastage in the sector but we need people educated about the reality many charities live in rather than the continuation of a misguided view many people have."


And then there is also the 'abuse' committed by those of poor morality who are closely associated with charity work and may or may not have power to direct financial gain not only towards their charity but also towards themselves and their complicit associates.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 09:45 - 61916 of 81564

Exec,

The sort of business you should get involved with.

Sounds a winner!

Why don't you offer your services as a carer moving on to organiser!

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 10:20 - 61917 of 81564

Is no 10 becoming a cat walk or another darker alley?


jimmy b - 06 Aug 2015 10:33 - 61918 of 81564

Fred should Blair be tried for war crimes ?

cynic - 06 Aug 2015 11:07 - 61919 of 81564

MrT and others ...... i am sure there's an awful lot more than simple misuse of funds

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 11:32 - 61920 of 81564

JB,

Personally, I didn't like Blair in 1997. I thought him intelligent, egotistical and more interested in his own future history and personal success. I thought him as shallow and measuring his own success on hanging onto power, rather than utilizing the “power” he had for general benefit. (Similar in personality to Cameron’s. Both rely on media sound bites and popular generalisations.)

I didn't like the way he followed Maggie Thatcher in the way he formed a "presidential" form of government, as Cameron is concreting into the present government. I prefer more collegial form of government, rather than follower the leader government

I thought he should have regulated the "city" and "financial" services, rather than run after them as Osborne is repeating.

I thought he was wrong in following Bush into Iraq. (So was IDS, and a horde of "knowledgeable" tories. (Misled? But followed by knowledgeable IDS and large parts of the tory party.)

I would like to see Blair defend himself in court of law against the Iraq Crimes?
But unfortunately probably his decisions were based on “judgement” and I doubt that he would be found “guilty” of any crime.

But it might be salutary to others, to consider going to war.

PS . I would like to have seen Thatcher tried for the sinking of Belgrano, which many consider to be an act of Murder.

(Check the cost of the Falkland’s war.)

jimmy b - 06 Aug 2015 11:39 - 61921 of 81564

Good on you Fred your right Blair was a parasite , Don't forget the Argies were invading OUR islands >>

aldwickk - 06 Aug 2015 12:09 - 61922 of 81564

How much as Bob Geldoff made from his offshore companys with the contact's he has got with African head of states ? How much tax does he pay in the UK

cynic - 06 Aug 2015 12:22 - 61923 of 81564

an interesting point about the belgrano, but i guess if you're at war, "being shot while running away" might be deemed justified, just as was the fire-bombing of dresden and then hiroshima

as for relying on the media and similar, it is just a fact of modern life in all its guises and you'll just have to get used to it
had it been otherwise, it is unlikely ronnie reagan would have been elected and, had it been in this era, then douglas-home wouldn't have stood a snowball's

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 12:25 - 61924 of 81564

JB,


Forgot!

The Falklands only 8000 miles from Nelson Column, just down the road from Buck Palace!

Bloody barmy, expensive ego trip for a failing Prime minister.

Fred1new - 06 Aug 2015 12:27 - 61925 of 81564

an interesting point about the belgrano, but i guess if you're at war, "being shot while running away" might be deemed justified, just as was the fire-bombing of dresden and then hiroshima


Generally considered amoral!

Haystack - 06 Aug 2015 12:35 - 61926 of 81564

I suppose we never sunk any German warships in WWII that were steaming away. Far better to let them head towards you and start an attack. And I guess we never used submarines to sunk warships without giving them a warning first. The Belgrano was a warship which was part of an enemy force. The alternative was to wait till it attacked us first. If it was not a beligerant then why was it at sea with hundreds on board?
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