Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

The moderate ones speak sense ........

EU, UK need widest possible free trade deal, Hungary says

BUDAPEST, Jan 18 (Reuters) - Hungary's foreign minister Peter Szijjarto said on Wednesday the European Union and Britain should strive for the widest, most comprehensive possible free trade deal in the wake of Britain's impending exit from the bloc, or Europe risks economic harm.

He added that even though Brexit was "bad news for Europe as well as Hungary" the European Union must not penalise London in any way for the decision, and urged close cooperation between Europe and Britain in the areas of security and labour.

Szijjarto warned that the UK is likely to make quick trade deals with other nations, posing a risk to Europe if it proves less competitive.

the problem for eu as an entity is that it cannot risk being too soft on uk as that would endanger the whole, for fairly obvious reasons
nevertheless, trying to wield the big stick would also be counter-productive

now get all 27 members to agree a single course!

LEAVE’S £350 MILLION PER WEEK CLAIM IS FINALLY VINDICATED

Extraordinary EU Report sneaked out yesterday shows that the Battlebus was right



EU MOVES TO ABOLISH UK'S REBATE

UK'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO EU WOULD INCREASE BY £4.6 BILLION PER YEAR






More: http://facts4eu.org/news.shtml

Each one wanting a favourable deal for themselves.

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I didn't think that it was governments who did the majority of economic deals, but companies, businesses and individuals who did the deals within the laws, rules and regulations set by governments?

Boris, Maybe and those who wish to break up or fragment Europe can shout as much as they like about how many deals there will be after the "exit".

Can we see what those deals are going to be?

What the UK governments of the last 6 years have been responsible for is the breakdown of Medical and Socials Services, Education, Transport and other parts of the infrastructure of the country.

Now it is completing the job by turning the UK into a tramp steamer of the world.

Any port in a storm.

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An interesting time will come when May produces her "agreements" for ratification by parliament, whether or not, they will vote her down.

That is one reason for her trying to avoid "explaining" the contents of such agreements to parliament.

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Ummmh

Jimmy B

No 3 Nick Glegg ?

Fred you not talking to Stan , after he voted for brexit

breakdown of Medical and Socials Services, Education, Transport
these have been in continual decline for decades

....and of course nothing to do with Blair's open border policies.
2517

But I thought the Cons had a magic wand and solutions to all problems.

I suppose they are just sleight of hand merchants after all.

no more so than any other political charlatans, but some are rather better at it than others

Good to see the newshound MaxK still sniffing out some stuff for us .Well done M.

Manuel,

I wondered why the fees at Eton were so high!

;-)

Ps. Stop reading my posts and let a stray dog lead you!

in part because it's an exceedingly good school

Building or content?

I wouldn't like Osborne and Cameron to be standards to judge by.

quality of teaching all round ...... and no, i did not go there :-)

They would not have had you?

probably not :-)

aldwickk - 18 Jan 2017 13:11 - 6195 of 6207

Jimmy B

No 3 Nick Glegg ?
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Yes aldwickk your bang on, how did you know.

h/t to leeds across the road..



'The problem with Europe is Europe,' warns Italian finance minister Padoan



By Szu Ping Chan, in Davos
18 January 2017 • 11:56am




Europe has become a "problem" that has led to rising populism and disaffection across the entire bloc, Italy's finance minister has warned.

Pier Carlo Padoan said European institutions were no longer viewed as the solution to the plight facing the eurozone and wider European Union.


"The problem with Europe, is Europe," he told an audience at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

He described the backlash against the establishment via June's Brexit vote and rejection of constitutional reforms in Italy as a "sign of crisis".

"In many, if not all, European countries there is a tendency to say our problems are generated in Brussels or Frankfurt.

"Europe used to be the solution to many of the problems of the laggards of European integration. Now this is being turned around completely."



More:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/18/problem-europe-europe-warns-italian-finance-minister-padoan/

It is good to know Maybe has a cunning plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXKS8Nyu8Q