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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred1new - 07 Aug 2015 08:15 - 61942 of 81564

JB,

Do you mean like the colonies?

India, Canada, Kenya, Sudan, Kenya, Egypt, etc.

Ummh!

Fix bayonets and that will fix em.

Rule Britannia.

Even Scotland wants to escape from England!

Fred1new - 07 Aug 2015 08:32 - 61943 of 81564

I wonder if this is why is popular.

Compared with Osborne Cameron and smearers similar to Hays and his pals.

His message is simple and appealing and consistent and intent I tthink honest.

Compared with the "tea party's" sneering and sound bites.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/here-are-the-four-most-common-misconceptions-about-me-and-my-campaign--and-the-truth-10443302.html


JEREMY CORBYN

Friday 7 August 2015
Jeremy Corbyn: Here are the four most common misconceptions about me and my campaign – and the truth
I hate the rich and am unelectable? I've heard a lot of things about myself since running for the Labour leadership, and I'd like to set them straight

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As I have travelled around the country it has been exciting to see a new generation engage with politics, and older people re-engage. I don’t make personal attacks and do not respond to them. Instead we must debate policy and give people confidence that we can win. But in the coverage of my campaign so far, four misconceptions keep reappearing. I want to address them.


1. “Corbynomics is deficit denial”
Credit: Rex Credit: Rex

I was a bit surprised last week to be accused of wanting to run “a deficit in perpetuity”. After all, in my economic speech I criticised George Osborne's Budget for not doing enough. What responsible government committed to closing the deficit would give a tax break to the richest 4 per cent of households through an inheritance tax cut?

More concretely I have pledged that, if the deficit has been closed by 2020 and the economy is growing (as Osborne forecasts), then Labour should not run a current budget deficit – but we should borrow to invest in our future prosperity. Far from denying the deficit, we must tackle it – but I do dispute that you best close it by cutting the public services, benefits and tax credits, or squeezing spending out of the economy so that growth is slowed down.

But if there is still a deficit in 2020, then I think you don’t set an arbitrary deadline, you have a strategy to grow the economy, increase tax revenues, and – if necessary – ask the most fortunate to contribute a little more. If anyone is in denial it is those who deny the true economic crisis – the crisis of rising poverty and homelessness, and falling productivity.



2. “You're unelectable”


I think I do OK. I have been elected eight times, the last time on a high turnout, with the highest ever vote with the highest ever majority. I think that compares favourably.

Labour has to become a movement again to win in 2020. A movement mobilises people and the part of the electorate who we most need to speak to is those who didn’t vote – 34 per cent at the last election. They are more likely to be young, from an ethnic minority background and to be working class, as are the hundreds of thousands who weren’t registered to vote at all. These are the people who would benefit most from a Labour government that stands up against discrimination, reduces inequality and poverty, creates a fairer society for all.

If we had won the support of just one in five of those who didn’t vote, then today we might have a Labour government. I think an honest, straight-talking politics can win back support from the Conservatives, Ukip, the Greens and SNP.



3. “He's anti-business and hates the rich”
Credit: Jay Shaw Baker/NurPhoto/REX Credit: Jay Shaw Baker/NurPhoto/REX

Well that will come as news to my lovely local coffee shop. I work with local businesses in my constituency, including some very promising high-tech businesses. My local authority is a living wage employer and extends that to all contractors – which is good for whole economy, boosting spending in other local businesses.

But I’m absolutely not relaxed about a few people being filthy rich while others are destitute. I detest inequality and injustice. We should not ignore the exploitation of workers, the degradation of our environment – or tax dodging by multinationals, which creates an unfair advantage over local businesses. Demanding tax justice is actually a moderate pro-business campaign: it seeks a level playing field for all.

Many well-off people I speak to, in Islington and around the country, would be quite happy to pay more tax to fund better public services or to pay down our debts. Opinion polls bear this out: better off people are no less likely to support higher taxes. A more equal society is better for us all. We all do better with good public services and when we all care for each other.


4. “No one will work with you”


There is a long way to go in this leadership contest, but – whoever wins – we shouldn’t want a Shadow Cabinet who all come from exactly the same political background. We need a democratic party that involves all MPs and party members. In addition to the appointed members of the Shadow Cabinet, every Labour MP should have a role to play – working to assist on each departmental policy area.

I recently spent a long weekend in Washington with Conservative MPs David Davis and Andrew Mitchell, and my Labour colleague Andy Slaughter, lobbying for the release of Shaker Aamer from Guantanamo Bay. They can see the greater good in working together, and I’m sure all Labour colleagues will too. Some of the things said in the heat of the campaign will doubtless be left there. I don’t do personal abuse – I want to lead a more inclusive and united party. After all, when the dust settles we are all still Labour.

2517GEORGE - 07 Aug 2015 09:18 - 61944 of 81564

Give the English a vote in the next Scottish referendum and the SNP will get their wish.
2517

Fred1new - 07 Aug 2015 09:22 - 61945 of 81564

That is a good idea.

Then Cornwall and North of England.



jimmy b - 07 Aug 2015 09:43 - 61946 of 81564

Scotland is Britain ,just get them to speak properly and stop being so Ginger .

MaxK - 07 Aug 2015 09:43 - 61947 of 81564

It's little wonder that Corbyn is so popular with the rank and file, he stands out clearly from the other three plastic contenders.

TANKER - 07 Aug 2015 10:00 - 61948 of 81564

Donald trump is a great man my hero can we get him over here to run the uk

Haystack - 07 Aug 2015 10:11 - 61949 of 81564

Scotland is just a county of northern England, Wales is the same.

TANKER - 07 Aug 2015 10:22 - 61950 of 81564

kids company what a great advertisement for children to be healthy a big fat woman as their mentor , yes a great big fat woman who can hardly walk.
disgusting fat woman. no wonder those children have big problems

Fred1new - 07 Aug 2015 10:31 - 61951 of 81564

Max.

Do you mean Cameron, Osborne and who else is there is in the present Tea party?

TANKER - 07 Aug 2015 11:45 - 61952 of 81564

butler out by a cracking ball

TANKER - 07 Aug 2015 13:20 - 61953 of 81564

c.m from kids company blaming ever one but her self a greedy woman who milked the company dry

Fred1new - 09 Aug 2015 09:07 - 61954 of 81564

Back to reality!

MaxK - 09 Aug 2015 09:39 - 61955 of 81564

Haystack - 09 Aug 2015 10:19 - 61956 of 81564

Kids Company 'paid private school fees for daughter of toppled boss's chauffeur': Charity chiefs launch probe into claim pupil was bankrolled

Kids Company closed this week amid claims donations were misspent
Among allegations is one about Camila Batmanghelidjh's chauffeur
Ex employees claim charity paid for Jeton Cavolli's daughter's school fees
She is said to have attended £28,000-a-year Dauntsey's School in Wiltshire

Camila Batmanghelidjh’s Kids Company is being investigated over claims that thousands of pounds of the charity’s money was spent on paying the boarding school costs of her chauffeur’s daughter.

The Charity Commission has launched a probe into allegations by former Kids Company employees that the charity helped bankroll a place for the teenage daughter of Jeton Cavolli, her personal driver, at Dauntsey’s School in Wiltshire –where fees reach £28,000 a year.

The investigation was triggered last month after employees met the Commission to set out their concerns about whether the arrangement represented proper use of the charity’s money.

It was among several matters raised during the meeting.

The revelation comes just days after Kids Company collapsed amid a welter of allegations about Batmanghelidjh’s organisation, including financial mismanagement and sexually inappropriate behaviour by young people linked to the charity.

The Mail on Sunday understands that Mr Cavolli, 46, known as ‘Tony’, has been on the charity’s payroll for nearly two decades. He is believed to have been paid about £40,000 a year.

Mr Cavolli, who is originally from Albania, is described by staff who worked at the London HQ of the defunct organisation as being so close to Batmanghelidjh that she treated him ‘like a member of her family’.

However, employees are said to have been angered that Kids Company funds – donated to help some of society’s most damaged children – apparently helped to support Mr Cavolli’s daughter at Dauntsey’s.

The school’s chairman of governors, Richard Handover, is also the vice-chairman of Kids Company’s board of trustees.

Late last night Batmanghelidjh contacted The Mail on Sunday to say she could prove to the Charity Commission that no money had been paid by Kids Company to the school to cover academic fees because they had been covered by the school in the form of a bursary.

It is understood the bursary covered the cost of boarding fees, not ‘extras’ and other costs incurred by the girl at the school.

When asked why her charity’s accounts had shown thousands of pounds being paid to the school on behalf of the girl, who was listed as a client of the charity, Batmanghelidjh said: ‘I don’t have the accounts in front of me. I don’t know what those figures relate to.’

A source who until recently worked at the charity said last night: ‘I can confirm that Ms Cavolli was registered as a client at Kids Company, and that Kids Company funds were spent supporting her while she was at school.’ It is understood that the amount paid was a five-figure sum.

The independent school was founded in 1542 and is set in more than 100 acres on the edge of Salisbury Plain. According to school records, Miss Cavolli left last summer. A source told this newspaper that employees had contacted the Charity Commission to inform them that Miss Cavolli’s name was among a group registered formally with Kids Company as ‘clients’ – vulnerable people who used its services.

It is claimed by a source that the charity paid for a number of clients to attend fee-paying schools as part of its Child Poverty Busting Programme. The charity’s website states: ‘We see the impact of such acute deprivation at our centres every day, which is why we need your help to restore dignity and hope to these courageous children.’

The source, who asked to remain anonymous, said: ‘I met Tony Cavolli’s daughter several times. She seemed like a nice, well-adjusted girl. It seems incredible that she was registered as a Kids Company client because there was nothing wrong with her, as far as I could tell.’

aldwickk - 09 Aug 2015 11:20 - 61957 of 81564

any comment about dresden and hiroshima?

They started the war, question: could they not have used a smaller A bomb to get the same result from Japan, could they have exploded it in a unpopulated area outside of a major city to get Japan to surrender ?

aldwickk - 09 Aug 2015 11:30 - 61958 of 81564

Love to see Camila Batmanghelidjh arrested and charged , if only for her bad dress sense [ why is a white women dressed like that ] ?

Fred1new - 09 Aug 2015 14:12 - 61959 of 81564

Nothing like a good Hays smear!

Goes down well with his party.

How is Lynton?

Fred1new - 09 Aug 2015 14:19 - 61960 of 81564

Max,

You prefer the status quo.

aldwickk - 09 Aug 2015 15:09 - 61961 of 81564

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