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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 18 Jan 2017 14:13 - 6197 of 12628

breakdown of Medical and Socials Services, Education, Transport
these have been in continual decline for decades

2517GEORGE - 18 Jan 2017 14:19 - 6198 of 12628

....and of course nothing to do with Blair's open border policies.
2517

Fred1new - 18 Jan 2017 14:20 - 6199 of 12628

But I thought the Cons had a magic wand and solutions to all problems.

I suppose they are just sleight of hand merchants after all.

cynic - 18 Jan 2017 14:29 - 6200 of 12628

no more so than any other political charlatans, but some are rather better at it than others

VICTIM - 18 Jan 2017 15:27 - 6201 of 12628

Good to see the newshound MaxK still sniffing out some stuff for us .Well done M.

Fred1new - 18 Jan 2017 15:56 - 6202 of 12628

Manuel,

I wondered why the fees at Eton were so high!

;-)

Ps. Stop reading my posts and let a stray dog lead you!

cynic - 18 Jan 2017 15:58 - 6203 of 12628

in part because it's an exceedingly good school

Fred1new - 18 Jan 2017 16:00 - 6204 of 12628

Building or content?

I wouldn't like Osborne and Cameron to be standards to judge by.

cynic - 18 Jan 2017 16:01 - 6205 of 12628

quality of teaching all round ...... and no, i did not go there :-)

Fred1new - 18 Jan 2017 16:37 - 6206 of 12628

They would not have had you?

cynic - 18 Jan 2017 17:05 - 6207 of 12628

probably not :-)

jimmy b - 18 Jan 2017 17:50 - 6208 of 12628

aldwickk - 18 Jan 2017 13:11 - 6195 of 6207

Jimmy B

No 3 Nick Glegg ?
.....................

Yes aldwickk your bang on, how did you know.

MaxK - 18 Jan 2017 18:20 - 6209 of 12628

h/t to leeds across the road..



'The problem with Europe is Europe,' warns Italian finance minister Padoan



By Szu Ping Chan, in Davos
18 January 2017 • 11:56am




Europe has become a "problem" that has led to rising populism and disaffection across the entire bloc, Italy's finance minister has warned.

Pier Carlo Padoan said European institutions were no longer viewed as the solution to the plight facing the eurozone and wider European Union.


"The problem with Europe, is Europe," he told an audience at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

He described the backlash against the establishment via June's Brexit vote and rejection of constitutional reforms in Italy as a "sign of crisis".

"In many, if not all, European countries there is a tendency to say our problems are generated in Brussels or Frankfurt.

"Europe used to be the solution to many of the problems of the laggards of European integration. Now this is being turned around completely."



More:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/18/problem-europe-europe-warns-italian-finance-minister-padoan/

Fred1new - 18 Jan 2017 19:26 - 6210 of 12628

It is good to know Maybe has a cunning plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsXKS8Nyu8Q

jimmy b - 18 Jan 2017 19:39 - 6211 of 12628

Go back to sleep Fred .

mentor - 18 Jan 2017 22:59 - 6212 of 12628

Freda

re - cunning plan

I would say ....... you could be looking at the mirror and see " Baldrick "

That is going to be your new - nickname -

mentor - 18 Jan 2017 23:21 - 6213 of 12628

" Baldrick "

Your Master had not ... ever any plans

Theresa May at PMQs to Jeremy Corbin

'It's called leadership, he should try it'
"I have a plan, he does not have a clue."
it was coming

VICTIM - 19 Jan 2017 07:52 - 6214 of 12628

With May now stating that the EU deal will be put to votes by MPs and the loafers , does this mean that the Supreme Court decision is now sort of meaningless . Sure someone knows .

iturama - 19 Jan 2017 08:08 - 6215 of 12628

They are different subjects. The court case is about triggering article 50. It looks likely that both will go to a vote.

VICTIM - 19 Jan 2017 08:15 - 6216 of 12628

Sorry haven't been keeping up , if article 50 would need a vote how can she be so sure we will be leaving .
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