mitzy
- 15 Sep 2008 11:16
Today they have fallen 22% to a new low of 223p ..are they another Marconi..?
The chart looks like one long suicide note.
Strawbs
- 17 Sep 2008 13:43
- 62 of 569
Be interesting to see the terms of the deal. I hope they haven't just created a bigger target for the hedgies.....
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
nordcaperen
- 17 Sep 2008 13:50
- 63 of 569
Totally gutted today - only just got in to play!! 88p at the low, you must have been mental not to snap them up below a pound.
nordcaperen
- 17 Sep 2008 13:58
- 64 of 569
Just read the news that Lloyds are in negotiation to buy out HBOS, like to know what the offer is !!
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 14:01
- 65 of 569
rumour is 300
nordcaperen
- 17 Sep 2008 14:02
- 66 of 569
2.75p all share offer - I can live with that
spitfire43
- 17 Sep 2008 14:06
- 67 of 569
I believe the 300p was a unsubstantiated price by a BBC reporter this morning, 200p or less might be nearer.
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 14:10
- 68 of 569
all will be revealed in due course ..... only stumbling block may be the over-sized mortgage book the combined will create, so may be required to spin that part off.
anyway, with sp in backwardation yet again at 152/125, but perhaps quite well below 200 again, could be worth a dabble
amardev
- 17 Sep 2008 14:56
- 69 of 569
Hi Cynic ..............
Good to hear from you and see you back in action.
Your thoughts always appreciated.
Be lucky
Amar
hlyeo98
- 17 Sep 2008 14:57
- 70 of 569
Time to buy HBOS now.
HARRYCAT
- 17 Sep 2008 15:13
- 71 of 569
I wish I could! Selftrade pants today!
Jub
- 17 Sep 2008 15:24
- 72 of 569
not sure they are floating around the 170 mark... i think it's a risky business
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 15:30
- 73 of 569
am waiting for +/-155
nordcaperen
- 17 Sep 2008 15:47
- 74 of 569
Cynic - if Lloyds are in advanced talks (first we've heard from yesterday) when do you think they'll make announcement of offer - do you think it would be sometime after close or a few days ?? I'm back in in at 1.63p cant see it falling lower than 1.60ish , but can see it flying on a an offer.
dealerdear
- 17 Sep 2008 15:49
- 75 of 569
Bloomberg reckoned it may be tomorrow but judging by the sp, people obviously don't believe that.
nordcaperen
- 17 Sep 2008 16:00
- 76 of 569
Stop loss triggered - trying to get back in but wont let me on Barclays
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 16:02
- 77 of 569
147.8 seemed a good price just now, so i topped up
hangon
- 17 Sep 2008 16:06
- 78 of 569
really risky IMHO
- HBOS told us (days ago), - they had plenty of cash - and now-?
I suspect (but do not know-so), that the "cash" they had was "access to" and it may have been a top-up from the Government/BoE to tide them over - - - - - - to avoid another NRK, esp as Labour has its Conference soon.
That being the case I suspect they are in trouble, hence the rumoured 49p-valuatiuon (purely a guess) and this dance with LLOY.
If it's true, then without LLOY there will be little to support HBOS as folk get their cash-savings out which effectivly stops HBOS from using LIBOR funds . . . . . hence it's likely to fall further, suspension and general mess all round.
-What would LLOY pay? - 3 don't be daft - if "thee and me" are nervous at sub-2 then LLOY will only pay 1 and if the Market is nervous at 1, they'll pay less. If that's the best they can get - how about LLOY shares?
Let's put a figure in the Ring . . . . 3xHBOS=1xLLOY, plus a Warrant . . . ?
There!
Remember Cash is King and LLOY appears to have the whip-hand....only my Opinion; don't shoot the messenger, however stupid.
dealerdear
- 17 Sep 2008 16:10
- 79 of 569
Bloomberg saying the deal is being brokered as we speak by Darling and Brown.
Reading between the lines and looking at the sp suggest to me if the deal isn't done they will go bust.
IMO of course
Got burnt by NRK, not going down the same road again - yet!
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 16:11
- 80 of 569
from CNN (cnnfn.com) this morning .....
Embattled British mortgage lender HBOS PLC has confirmed that it is in advanced talks about being taken over Lloyds TSB PLC.
The brief Wednesday announcement gave no details and added that the talks may not lead to an agreement.
HBOS is the parent company of Halifax and the Bank of Scotland. It has come under pressure because of its exposure to the U.S. subprime mortgage market, raising questions about whether it can refinance its debt. The bank says it can borrow money whenever it needs to.
cynic
- 17 Sep 2008 16:12
- 81 of 569
well imo, gov't would and could not dare to let one of the big 5 clearers go belly up