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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 14 Aug 2015 22:06 - 62016 of 81564

Here is the flavour of his views!

Dont count your chickens etc etc.

You Tories think its a bad thing and labour are going to self destruct.....WRONG Corbyn as awoken young voters and they are following him in the thousands, hundreds of thousands.

Not only that but he'l get back all the SNP seats.

I wouldnt be too smug you two MAM itinerants, and he'l murder Dodgy Dave in debates at PMQs.

Your listening too much to the roaring right wing press and media.

ps, Cynic are you going to subsidise your poor tenant who will have at least £80 a week less money than he as now when Osbournes austerity savings kick in.

I DID WARN YOU.

MaxK - 14 Aug 2015 22:56 - 62017 of 81564

It might be handy to have a credible opposition, you know, someone who would go against the flow a bit.

At the moment, Dodgy Dave has no foil, Harperson isn't up to the job, any job.

Fred1new - 15 Aug 2015 08:14 - 62018 of 81564

hilary - 15 Aug 2015 09:55 - 62019 of 81564

Blimey, Haystack. Itinerant is a big word for Fishfinger.

Fred1new - 15 Aug 2015 10:56 - 62020 of 81564

hil,

I have always thought of you as an itinerant!

Haystack - 15 Aug 2015 17:10 - 62021 of 81564

“A movement is born,” claimed Jezza’s unofficial PR man Owen Jones last week: “across the nation, in every village and town and city you can see this movement emerging”. The hyperbole is even more generous in Owen’s interview with the man himself today: “in the last few weeks Corybnmania has swept across the country”. Well, has it?

The latest figures show there are around 270,000 Labour members.

In addition, around 70,000 have joined as affiliated supporters.

50,000 are so-called ‘registered supporters’.

A total of 390,000 people.

The voting age population of the UK is 50,780,423.

If we (generously) assume that around half of all those affiliated with the Labour Party support Corbyn – 195,000 people – then what proportion of the voting population is a Corbynista? Just 0.38%.

Hardly sweeping the country…

MaxK - 15 Aug 2015 20:29 - 62022 of 81564

And the tories have how many registered members and supporters?


Care to put up a graph of tory membership since Call Me took over??

Fred1new - 15 Aug 2015 20:33 - 62023 of 81564

Use one hand to count!

The rest are sharpening knives to stab in the glorious leader in the back!

Haystack - 15 Aug 2015 20:39 - 62024 of 81564

The UK has the lowest rate of membership of a political party in Europe. It is around 1%. This compares to 3.8% in 1983. Membership fees are important to some parties. Labour gets 15% of its income that way, but the Conservatives only get 2%.

Haystack - 16 Aug 2015 12:04 - 62025 of 81564

This is a well reasoned explanation of Corbyn's 'economic' plans.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/16/richard_murphy_corbyn_economics/

Fred1new - 16 Aug 2015 13:53 - 62026 of 81564

Nor the right-winged fascist media and torrid party.

Wonder why?


ist media!


Fred1new - 17 Aug 2015 08:16 - 62027 of 81564

ExecLine - 17 Aug 2015 10:53 - 62028 of 81564

Paris to San Francisco in 1 hr.

NB1. This excludes time spent at 'Check In' of 2 hrs and in Departure/Immigration of 1 hr, making total journey time (excluding getting to and from the airports) of 4 hrs in total.

NB2. There is no broadband facility on board and neither is there sufficient time to watch an on-board movie. To reduce the chance of travel sickness from the extreme accelerations experienced, on-board meals are not served.

Haystack - 17 Aug 2015 12:15 - 62029 of 81564

From Boris

It begins with a look of slow and wondering amazement – as if he hardly dares believe his luck; and then the certainty builds, millisecond by millisecond. Then the eyebrows go up even higher, and the mouth gapes and the eyes pop and the epiglottis vibrates as he lets out a long, whooping yell of sheer incredulous ecstasy.

That is how police chief Brody reacts in the last reel of Jaws when, by some fluke, he manages to shoot a bullet right into the oxygen tank in the mouth of the shark, and the ravening fish improbably explodes. That is frankly how we in the Tory party feel as we watch what is happening in the Labour movement today.

If these polls are right (and that is a pretty big if these days) then we are at that preliminary stage in Roy Scheider’s masterful portrait of the joyful police chief. We aren’t yet whooping, but our eyebrows are twitching north in incredulity. We are filled with disbelief that this can really be taking place, a distrust of the evidence of our senses.

If all these forecasts are right – the polls, the betting markets, the pundits – then that fearsome New Labour machine is in the process of some kind of violent, unexpected and hilarious disintegration. It really looks as though it might be the end for the ruthless beast that won three election victories and struck terror for so long into Tory hearts. Can it be true? Can this be happening? Are they really proposing that Her Majesty’s Opposition should be led by Jeremy Corbyn?

It is not just that he has next to zero support among mainstream Labour MPs in the Commons; it doesn’t matter that he has rebelled against the party leadership ever since he has been in the House. Indeed, it doesn’t matter that he sometimes identifies the right problems – low pay, underinvestment in infrastructure, or whatever. It is his solutions that are so out of whack with reality.

This is a man whose policies are way, way to the Left even of the last Labour leader – Miliband – a man who in the end was resoundingly rejected by the electorate for being too Left-wing. Jeremy Corbyn is a bearded version of Ken Livingstone (I think they even go to the same tailor for their vests). He would take this country back to the 1970s, or perhaps even the 1790s. He believes in higher taxes and a bigger deficit, and kowtowing to the unions, and abandoning all attempts to introduce competition or academic rigour in schools – let alone reforming welfare.

He is a Sinn Fein-loving, monarchy-baiting, Israel-bashing believer in unilateral nuclear disarmament. It is nonsense to compare him to Michael Foot, who had been at least a Cabinet minister and before that a distinguished campaigner against the pre-war appeasers. This is a man who, for more than 30 years, has made a political career out of being explicitly and avowedly on the Spartist Left. He is a frondist, an inhabitant of the semi-Trot margin, an unrepentant lover of oppositionalism. Never in all his wildest dreams did he imagine that he might be leader of what has been – until this year – one of the major parties of government; and now he is having greatness thrust upon him.

How have the People’s party engineered this extraordinary horlicks? There are four groups of culprits. There is the Miliband regime, as mentioned, which not only came up with the deranged rules of the contest – by which, at one stage, the power to help choose the next Labour leader was handed to my old friend, the Conservative penseur Toby Young. Mili and co also shifted Labour so much to the Left that they managed to give a kind of spurious legitimacy to the Corbyn agenda. Miliband adopted wholesale the Livingstone playbook of state-enforced price freezes and rent controls and other attempts to buck the market.

There is a sense in which Corbyn is explicitly the heir of Miliband – and it is notable that Ed has kept a low profile lately, as if he realises the enormity of what he has done. The next group of culprits are all the New Labour old guard: Alastair Campbell, Mandelson, and above all Mr Tony himself – they have been cloth-eared in their response, hectoring Labour supporters who still haven’t forgiven them for the Iraq war; and as for Blair’s suggestion that Corbyn-backers “get a heart transplant”, it conjured an unfortunate image of our zillionaire former PM, jetting off to California for expensive organ-swapping procedures that are simply beyond the means of most people in this country.

The third set of villains is, of course, the other candidates, who have been so robotically dull that they have made Jeremy’s woolly ruminations seem positively electrifying. They are so torpid that it almost feels as if they want to lose. Come on, guys: where is the fire? Where are your plans to build a new Jerusalem? I cannot think of a single thing any of them has said – except to bash Corbyn, with the result that Corbyn is the story, Corbyn is the guy that everyone wants to see – and the loony Corbynmania grows, like a stock market bubble that will burst too late.

Which brings me to the group that bears final responsibility for what may – may, as I say – be about to happen: the armies of Labour rank and file who honestly seem to think that this might be the way forward. Yes, there really are a few hundred thousand people who seriously think that we should turn back the clock, take huge swathes of industry back into public ownership and massively expand the state.

The problem for Labour is that they do not represent the majority of people in this country. That is the real lesson of this campaign so far: that the mass of the Labour Party is totally out of touch with reality and common sense. How should we Tories react? Well, that is for another column; but in the meantime we watch with befuddlement and bewilderment that is turning all the time into a sense of exhilarating vindication: I told you they were loony.

ExecLine - 17 Aug 2015 13:46 - 62030 of 81564

Kaspersky faked malware to harm rivals, claim former employees

Kaspersky Lab, tried to damage rivals in the marketplace by tricking their antivirus software programs

The Russian company is one of the most popular antivirus software makers, boasting 400 million users and 270,000 corporate clients. Kaspersky has won wide respect in the industry for its research on sophisticated Western spying programs and the Stuxnet computer worm that sabotaged Iran’s nuclear program in 2009 and 2010.

“It was decided to provide some problems” for rivals, said one ex-employee. “It is not only damaging for a competing company but also damaging for users’ computers.”


More HERE

Hmmm?

Aha! I know. I won't be using Kaspersky.

Fred1new - 17 Aug 2015 15:02 - 62031 of 81564

Post 62032

Was that written by the tory party's (hence known as the UK Tea Party) own Donald Trumpet?

Fred1new - 17 Aug 2015 15:07 - 62032 of 81564

Before the crowing wakes the children remember this guy and the Tea Party's celebration before the election results came in.

Haystack - 17 Aug 2015 20:29 - 62033 of 81564

aldwickk - 18 Aug 2015 21:41 - 62034 of 81564

I use Kaspersky

aldwickk - 18 Aug 2015 21:47 - 62035 of 81564

I use Kaspersky
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