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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ExecLine - 17 Aug 2015 10:53 - 62028 of 81564

Paris to San Francisco in 1 hr.

NB1. This excludes time spent at 'Check In' of 2 hrs and in Departure/Immigration of 1 hr, making total journey time (excluding getting to and from the airports) of 4 hrs in total.

NB2. There is no broadband facility on board and neither is there sufficient time to watch an on-board movie. To reduce the chance of travel sickness from the extreme accelerations experienced, on-board meals are not served.

Haystack - 17 Aug 2015 12:15 - 62029 of 81564

From Boris

It begins with a look of slow and wondering amazement – as if he hardly dares believe his luck; and then the certainty builds, millisecond by millisecond. Then the eyebrows go up even higher, and the mouth gapes and the eyes pop and the epiglottis vibrates as he lets out a long, whooping yell of sheer incredulous ecstasy.

That is how police chief Brody reacts in the last reel of Jaws when, by some fluke, he manages to shoot a bullet right into the oxygen tank in the mouth of the shark, and the ravening fish improbably explodes. That is frankly how we in the Tory party feel as we watch what is happening in the Labour movement today.

If these polls are right (and that is a pretty big if these days) then we are at that preliminary stage in Roy Scheider’s masterful portrait of the joyful police chief. We aren’t yet whooping, but our eyebrows are twitching north in incredulity. We are filled with disbelief that this can really be taking place, a distrust of the evidence of our senses.

If all these forecasts are right – the polls, the betting markets, the pundits – then that fearsome New Labour machine is in the process of some kind of violent, unexpected and hilarious disintegration. It really looks as though it might be the end for the ruthless beast that won three election victories and struck terror for so long into Tory hearts. Can it be true? Can this be happening? Are they really proposing that Her Majesty’s Opposition should be led by Jeremy Corbyn?

It is not just that he has next to zero support among mainstream Labour MPs in the Commons; it doesn’t matter that he has rebelled against the party leadership ever since he has been in the House. Indeed, it doesn’t matter that he sometimes identifies the right problems – low pay, underinvestment in infrastructure, or whatever. It is his solutions that are so out of whack with reality.

This is a man whose policies are way, way to the Left even of the last Labour leader – Miliband – a man who in the end was resoundingly rejected by the electorate for being too Left-wing. Jeremy Corbyn is a bearded version of Ken Livingstone (I think they even go to the same tailor for their vests). He would take this country back to the 1970s, or perhaps even the 1790s. He believes in higher taxes and a bigger deficit, and kowtowing to the unions, and abandoning all attempts to introduce competition or academic rigour in schools – let alone reforming welfare.

He is a Sinn Fein-loving, monarchy-baiting, Israel-bashing believer in unilateral nuclear disarmament. It is nonsense to compare him to Michael Foot, who had been at least a Cabinet minister and before that a distinguished campaigner against the pre-war appeasers. This is a man who, for more than 30 years, has made a political career out of being explicitly and avowedly on the Spartist Left. He is a frondist, an inhabitant of the semi-Trot margin, an unrepentant lover of oppositionalism. Never in all his wildest dreams did he imagine that he might be leader of what has been – until this year – one of the major parties of government; and now he is having greatness thrust upon him.

How have the People’s party engineered this extraordinary horlicks? There are four groups of culprits. There is the Miliband regime, as mentioned, which not only came up with the deranged rules of the contest – by which, at one stage, the power to help choose the next Labour leader was handed to my old friend, the Conservative penseur Toby Young. Mili and co also shifted Labour so much to the Left that they managed to give a kind of spurious legitimacy to the Corbyn agenda. Miliband adopted wholesale the Livingstone playbook of state-enforced price freezes and rent controls and other attempts to buck the market.

There is a sense in which Corbyn is explicitly the heir of Miliband – and it is notable that Ed has kept a low profile lately, as if he realises the enormity of what he has done. The next group of culprits are all the New Labour old guard: Alastair Campbell, Mandelson, and above all Mr Tony himself – they have been cloth-eared in their response, hectoring Labour supporters who still haven’t forgiven them for the Iraq war; and as for Blair’s suggestion that Corbyn-backers “get a heart transplant”, it conjured an unfortunate image of our zillionaire former PM, jetting off to California for expensive organ-swapping procedures that are simply beyond the means of most people in this country.

The third set of villains is, of course, the other candidates, who have been so robotically dull that they have made Jeremy’s woolly ruminations seem positively electrifying. They are so torpid that it almost feels as if they want to lose. Come on, guys: where is the fire? Where are your plans to build a new Jerusalem? I cannot think of a single thing any of them has said – except to bash Corbyn, with the result that Corbyn is the story, Corbyn is the guy that everyone wants to see – and the loony Corbynmania grows, like a stock market bubble that will burst too late.

Which brings me to the group that bears final responsibility for what may – may, as I say – be about to happen: the armies of Labour rank and file who honestly seem to think that this might be the way forward. Yes, there really are a few hundred thousand people who seriously think that we should turn back the clock, take huge swathes of industry back into public ownership and massively expand the state.

The problem for Labour is that they do not represent the majority of people in this country. That is the real lesson of this campaign so far: that the mass of the Labour Party is totally out of touch with reality and common sense. How should we Tories react? Well, that is for another column; but in the meantime we watch with befuddlement and bewilderment that is turning all the time into a sense of exhilarating vindication: I told you they were loony.

ExecLine - 17 Aug 2015 13:46 - 62030 of 81564

Kaspersky faked malware to harm rivals, claim former employees

Kaspersky Lab, tried to damage rivals in the marketplace by tricking their antivirus software programs

The Russian company is one of the most popular antivirus software makers, boasting 400 million users and 270,000 corporate clients. Kaspersky has won wide respect in the industry for its research on sophisticated Western spying programs and the Stuxnet computer worm that sabotaged Iran’s nuclear program in 2009 and 2010.

“It was decided to provide some problems” for rivals, said one ex-employee. “It is not only damaging for a competing company but also damaging for users’ computers.”


More HERE

Hmmm?

Aha! I know. I won't be using Kaspersky.

Fred1new - 17 Aug 2015 15:02 - 62031 of 81564

Post 62032

Was that written by the tory party's (hence known as the UK Tea Party) own Donald Trumpet?

Fred1new - 17 Aug 2015 15:07 - 62032 of 81564

Before the crowing wakes the children remember this guy and the Tea Party's celebration before the election results came in.

Haystack - 17 Aug 2015 20:29 - 62033 of 81564

aldwickk - 18 Aug 2015 21:41 - 62034 of 81564

I use Kaspersky

aldwickk - 18 Aug 2015 21:47 - 62035 of 81564

I use Kaspersky

Haystack - 18 Aug 2015 23:07 - 62036 of 81564

"Never trust a man, who when left alone with a tea cosy... doesn't try it on."

Billy Connolly

Haystack - 18 Aug 2015 23:53 - 62037 of 81564

Corbyn could be elected leader with the backing of just 20 of the party’s 232 MPs.

MaxK - 19 Aug 2015 08:34 - 62038 of 81564

Moonboot tells it how it is......




Jeremy Corbyn is the curator of the future. His rivals are chasing an impossible dream

George Monbiot

Tuesday 18 August 2015 19.29 BST


Those who believe that New Labour’s clapped-out politics can transform the party’s fortunes are delusional





On one point I agree with his opponents: Jeremy Corbyn has little chance of winning the 2020 general election. But the same applies to the other three candidates. Either Labour must win back the seats it once held in Scotland (surely impossible without veering to the left) or it must beat the Conservatives by 12 points in England and Wales to form an overall majority. The impending boundary changes could mean that it has to win back 106 seats. If you think that is likely, I respectfully suggest that you are living in a dreamworld.

In fact, in this contest of improbabilities, Corbyn might stand the better chance. Only a disruptive political movement, that can ignite, mesmerise and mobilise, that can raise an army of volunteers – as the SNP did in Scotland – could smash the political concrete.

To imagine that Labour could overcome such odds by becoming bland, blurred and craven is to succumb to thinking that is simultaneously magical and despairing. Such dreamers argue that Labour has to recapture the middle ground. But there is no such place; no fixed political geography. The middle ground is a magic mountain that retreats as you approach. The more you chase it from the left, the further to the right it moves.



More of a very good read here:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/18/jeremy-corbyn-rivals-chase-impossible-dream

ExecLine - 19 Aug 2015 08:41 - 62039 of 81564

Pistorius gets parole and comes out of prison this Friday.

He doesn't seem to have been in there very long, does he? It seemed like his court case dragged on for ever.

A sentence so light surely cannot be right? To me, it just seems like he has spent more time in court getting his sentence, than he has in prison.

cynic - 19 Aug 2015 09:12 - 62040 of 81564

thoroughly agree ..... he was as guilty as guilty could be

jimmy b - 19 Aug 2015 09:12 - 62041 of 81564

No it's wrong , i watched a lot of the court case on TV and from what i saw i think he is guilty of murder .

ExecLine - 19 Aug 2015 10:18 - 62042 of 81564

Not enough was made concerning his propensity towards rapidly becoming phenominally angry, IMHO.

Am I correct with my own assumption, that everyone here in the UK knew of it and yet it was hardly mentioned.

Haystack - 19 Aug 2015 11:07 - 62043 of 81564

The prosecutors are appealing to try again for murder.

jimmy b - 19 Aug 2015 11:15 - 62044 of 81564

How do you wake up in the night knowing there are only two of you in the house , not know where the one is or even call out there name

(also they were in the same bed as you and were not there when you got up)

then start pumping bullets through a bathroom door ..

Sequestor - 19 Aug 2015 12:01 - 62045 of 81564

Don`t give me ideas.

jimmy b - 19 Aug 2015 12:05 - 62046 of 81564

:))

Haystack - 19 Aug 2015 23:52 - 62047 of 81564

He is beginning to believe his own propaganda. A megalomaniac in the making.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-tells-labour-mps-if-you-dont-back-me-the-grassroots-will-rise-up-10462770.html

Jeremy Corbyn tells Labour MPs: if you don't back me, the grassroots will rise up

Jeremy Corbyn issues a stark warning today to Labour MPs that he expects them to back his radical agenda to reshape the party or face organised revolts by his army of grass-roots supporters.

“I will absolutely use our supporters to push our agenda up to the parliamentary party and get them to follow that,” he said. “We have to encourage the Parliamentary Labour Party to be part of that process and not to stand in the way of democratising the party and empowering the party members. It is going to be an interesting discussion.”



Mr Corbyn’s comments will fuel fears on the right of the party that his election will precipitate a return of the “trigger ballot” fights of the 1980s where those on the left of the party attempted to deselect MPs who disagreed with the party’s left-wing platform.

Privately, some Labour MPs have told The Independent that they fear they will be “purged” under the cover of boundary changes that are likely to mean large numbers of MPs have to seek early reselection ahead of the next election.

In his comments, Mr Corbyn did little to dismiss these fears, warning that he expected his parliamentary colleagues to back his plan for policy-making to be devolved to his new army of supporters who have propelled him to be the favourite in next month’s contest.

“I just want to remind my dear friends in the Parliamentary Labour Party that we are honoured to be members of Parliament,” he said. “We have been supported by the Labour Party to become Labour members of Parliament.

“But we are not the entirety of the Labour Party – we are part of the Labour Party. And I want to see real democracy so this election gives a very strong mandate for change within our society.”
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