Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

"Never trust a man, who when left alone with a tea cosy... doesn't try it on."

Billy Connolly

Corbyn could be elected leader with the backing of just 20 of the party’s 232 MPs.

Moonboot tells it how it is......




Jeremy Corbyn is the curator of the future. His rivals are chasing an impossible dream

George Monbiot

Tuesday 18 August 2015 19.29 BST


Those who believe that New Labour’s clapped-out politics can transform the party’s fortunes are delusional





On one point I agree with his opponents: Jeremy Corbyn has little chance of winning the 2020 general election. But the same applies to the other three candidates. Either Labour must win back the seats it once held in Scotland (surely impossible without veering to the left) or it must beat the Conservatives by 12 points in England and Wales to form an overall majority. The impending boundary changes could mean that it has to win back 106 seats. If you think that is likely, I respectfully suggest that you are living in a dreamworld.

In fact, in this contest of improbabilities, Corbyn might stand the better chance. Only a disruptive political movement, that can ignite, mesmerise and mobilise, that can raise an army of volunteers – as the SNP did in Scotland – could smash the political concrete.

To imagine that Labour could overcome such odds by becoming bland, blurred and craven is to succumb to thinking that is simultaneously magical and despairing. Such dreamers argue that Labour has to recapture the middle ground. But there is no such place; no fixed political geography. The middle ground is a magic mountain that retreats as you approach. The more you chase it from the left, the further to the right it moves.



More of a very good read here:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/18/jeremy-corbyn-rivals-chase-impossible-dream

Pistorius gets parole and comes out of prison this Friday.

He doesn't seem to have been in there very long, does he? It seemed like his court case dragged on for ever.

A sentence so light surely cannot be right? To me, it just seems like he has spent more time in court getting his sentence, than he has in prison.

thoroughly agree ..... he was as guilty as guilty could be

No it's wrong , i watched a lot of the court case on TV and from what i saw i think he is guilty of murder .

Not enough was made concerning his propensity towards rapidly becoming phenominally angry, IMHO.

Am I correct with my own assumption, that everyone here in the UK knew of it and yet it was hardly mentioned.

The prosecutors are appealing to try again for murder.

How do you wake up in the night knowing there are only two of you in the house , not know where the one is or even call out there name

(also they were in the same bed as you and were not there when you got up)

then start pumping bullets through a bathroom door ..

Don`t give me ideas.

:))

He is beginning to believe his own propaganda. A megalomaniac in the making.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-tells-labour-mps-if-you-dont-back-me-the-grassroots-will-rise-up-10462770.html

Jeremy Corbyn tells Labour MPs: if you don't back me, the grassroots will rise up

Jeremy Corbyn issues a stark warning today to Labour MPs that he expects them to back his radical agenda to reshape the party or face organised revolts by his army of grass-roots supporters.

“I will absolutely use our supporters to push our agenda up to the parliamentary party and get them to follow that,” he said. “We have to encourage the Parliamentary Labour Party to be part of that process and not to stand in the way of democratising the party and empowering the party members. It is going to be an interesting discussion.”



Mr Corbyn’s comments will fuel fears on the right of the party that his election will precipitate a return of the “trigger ballot” fights of the 1980s where those on the left of the party attempted to deselect MPs who disagreed with the party’s left-wing platform.

Privately, some Labour MPs have told The Independent that they fear they will be “purged” under the cover of boundary changes that are likely to mean large numbers of MPs have to seek early reselection ahead of the next election.

In his comments, Mr Corbyn did little to dismiss these fears, warning that he expected his parliamentary colleagues to back his plan for policy-making to be devolved to his new army of supporters who have propelled him to be the favourite in next month’s contest.

“I just want to remind my dear friends in the Parliamentary Labour Party that we are honoured to be members of Parliament,” he said. “We have been supported by the Labour Party to become Labour members of Parliament.

“But we are not the entirety of the Labour Party – we are part of the Labour Party. And I want to see real democracy so this election gives a very strong mandate for change within our society.”

To change that a little''''


“I just want to remind my dear friends in the Parliamentary Tory Party that we are honoured to be members of Parliament,” he said. “We have been supported by the Tory Party to become Tory members of Parliament.



Perhaps it's time for the tory party to remember who elected them, and why.

The Tories are doing a fantastic job now they're free of the Lib Dem shackles, and Labour are about to commit political suicide .

Jeremy Corbyn could face Labour MPs' coup 'within days of being elected leader'

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month

Moderate Labour MPs have been in discussions how to overthrow hard Left Jeremy Corbyn if he is crowned Labour leader next month, The Telegraph can disclose.

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month.

This could see Mr Corbyn fighting for his political life at the party’s annual conference, just days after he has been elected leader.

Mr Corbyn is currently on course to be unveiled as the Labour party’s leader when the result is announced at a special conference at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Centre in Westminster central London on September 12.

Yvette Cooper is locked in a bitter battle with Andy Burnham to be Mr Corbyn's main challenger, while the other contender Liz Kendall, who has been backed by Labour’s Blairite wing, lags behind in a distant fourth place

Parliament returns on September 7 and sits until September 17, when Labour MPs decamp to Brighton for the party’s annual Autumn conference.

To trigger a new leadership campaign, 20 per cent of the Parliamentary Labour party (PLP) – 46 MPs – would have to tell the party's National Executive Committee that they support a rival candidate.

The party’s rules state: “Where there is no vacancy, nominations may be sought by potential challengers each year prior to the annual session of Party conference.

“In this case any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the Commons members of the PLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void.”

Any attempt to unseat Mr Corbyn would be more likely if the hard Left MP only narrowly wins the election.

One source: “There is talk among MPs who are alarmed about what will happen. That is certainly the case. I don’t think there will be a problem getting the numbers.”

Harriet Harman, the acting leader, last week expressed concern that as many as a fifth of the 120,000 party supporters who paid £3 to join the party could be alleged “infiltrators".

Labour MPs are worried that the Parliamentary party would look out of touch if they decided to reject a leader such as Mr Corbyn who had won the contest overwhelmingly.

But one shadow Cabinet minister laid bare the panic in the mainstream party, telling this week’s New Statesman magazine: “It is like a bad dream.”

David Blunkett, who was Home secretary under Tony Blair’s leadership, said that Mr Corbyn was only worth voting for if Labour wanted to stay in Opposition.

He said: “If you want a really good, vigorous outriding opposition and you want to continue being in opposition, vote for somebody who is good at opposition.”

Some might say, that anyone who joins the Labour party using one of these £3 membership facilities, so as to be able to vote for 'hard leftist' Jeremy Corbyn and thereby try to make the Labour party unelectable, is morally participating in political election corruption (but at the lowest legal level).

There again, some others might not (say that).

But where are all the Labour Party heavyweights? We are not hearin much from them. The only ones I can recollect speaking in public and have seen speaking on TV are Blair and Brown, the ex-PMs. The latter didn't want to mention Corbyn by name. Absolutely nothing from the Milibands and other pre-GE 'has beens'.

David Milliband has come out against Corbyn and in favour of Cooper.

Doc,

What about anyone who joins the Labour party using more than one of these £3 membership facilities?

All this is down to Ed Miliband changing the leadership election rules. At least the Conservatives only put the shortlisted candidates to the party faithful after the MPs choose people who they would accept as leader. Corbyn cannot survive without the support of his MPs.

It is win win for the Conservatives. If there is a coup then Labour will tear themselves apart. If Corbyn stays leader then there will be a lunatic in charge of the opposition with the MPs defying the whip and unelectable policies.