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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

ExecLine - 19 Aug 2015 10:18 - 62042 of 81564

Not enough was made concerning his propensity towards rapidly becoming phenominally angry, IMHO.

Am I correct with my own assumption, that everyone here in the UK knew of it and yet it was hardly mentioned.

Haystack - 19 Aug 2015 11:07 - 62043 of 81564

The prosecutors are appealing to try again for murder.

jimmy b - 19 Aug 2015 11:15 - 62044 of 81564

How do you wake up in the night knowing there are only two of you in the house , not know where the one is or even call out there name

(also they were in the same bed as you and were not there when you got up)

then start pumping bullets through a bathroom door ..

Sequestor - 19 Aug 2015 12:01 - 62045 of 81564

Don`t give me ideas.

jimmy b - 19 Aug 2015 12:05 - 62046 of 81564

:))

Haystack - 19 Aug 2015 23:52 - 62047 of 81564

He is beginning to believe his own propaganda. A megalomaniac in the making.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-tells-labour-mps-if-you-dont-back-me-the-grassroots-will-rise-up-10462770.html

Jeremy Corbyn tells Labour MPs: if you don't back me, the grassroots will rise up

Jeremy Corbyn issues a stark warning today to Labour MPs that he expects them to back his radical agenda to reshape the party or face organised revolts by his army of grass-roots supporters.

“I will absolutely use our supporters to push our agenda up to the parliamentary party and get them to follow that,” he said. “We have to encourage the Parliamentary Labour Party to be part of that process and not to stand in the way of democratising the party and empowering the party members. It is going to be an interesting discussion.”



Mr Corbyn’s comments will fuel fears on the right of the party that his election will precipitate a return of the “trigger ballot” fights of the 1980s where those on the left of the party attempted to deselect MPs who disagreed with the party’s left-wing platform.

Privately, some Labour MPs have told The Independent that they fear they will be “purged” under the cover of boundary changes that are likely to mean large numbers of MPs have to seek early reselection ahead of the next election.

In his comments, Mr Corbyn did little to dismiss these fears, warning that he expected his parliamentary colleagues to back his plan for policy-making to be devolved to his new army of supporters who have propelled him to be the favourite in next month’s contest.

“I just want to remind my dear friends in the Parliamentary Labour Party that we are honoured to be members of Parliament,” he said. “We have been supported by the Labour Party to become Labour members of Parliament.

“But we are not the entirety of the Labour Party – we are part of the Labour Party. And I want to see real democracy so this election gives a very strong mandate for change within our society.”

MaxK - 20 Aug 2015 00:05 - 62048 of 81564

To change that a little''''


“I just want to remind my dear friends in the Parliamentary Tory Party that we are honoured to be members of Parliament,” he said. “We have been supported by the Tory Party to become Tory members of Parliament.



Perhaps it's time for the tory party to remember who elected them, and why.

hilary - 20 Aug 2015 08:01 - 62049 of 81564

The Tories are doing a fantastic job now they're free of the Lib Dem shackles, and Labour are about to commit political suicide .

MaxK - 20 Aug 2015 08:57 - 62050 of 81564

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 10:20 - 62051 of 81564

Jeremy Corbyn could face Labour MPs' coup 'within days of being elected leader'

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month

Moderate Labour MPs have been in discussions how to overthrow hard Left Jeremy Corbyn if he is crowned Labour leader next month, The Telegraph can disclose.

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month.

This could see Mr Corbyn fighting for his political life at the party’s annual conference, just days after he has been elected leader.

Mr Corbyn is currently on course to be unveiled as the Labour party’s leader when the result is announced at a special conference at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Centre in Westminster central London on September 12.

Yvette Cooper is locked in a bitter battle with Andy Burnham to be Mr Corbyn's main challenger, while the other contender Liz Kendall, who has been backed by Labour’s Blairite wing, lags behind in a distant fourth place

Parliament returns on September 7 and sits until September 17, when Labour MPs decamp to Brighton for the party’s annual Autumn conference.

To trigger a new leadership campaign, 20 per cent of the Parliamentary Labour party (PLP) – 46 MPs – would have to tell the party's National Executive Committee that they support a rival candidate.

The party’s rules state: “Where there is no vacancy, nominations may be sought by potential challengers each year prior to the annual session of Party conference.

“In this case any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the Commons members of the PLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void.”

Any attempt to unseat Mr Corbyn would be more likely if the hard Left MP only narrowly wins the election.

One source: “There is talk among MPs who are alarmed about what will happen. That is certainly the case. I don’t think there will be a problem getting the numbers.”

Harriet Harman, the acting leader, last week expressed concern that as many as a fifth of the 120,000 party supporters who paid £3 to join the party could be alleged “infiltrators".

Labour MPs are worried that the Parliamentary party would look out of touch if they decided to reject a leader such as Mr Corbyn who had won the contest overwhelmingly.

But one shadow Cabinet minister laid bare the panic in the mainstream party, telling this week’s New Statesman magazine: “It is like a bad dream.”

David Blunkett, who was Home secretary under Tony Blair’s leadership, said that Mr Corbyn was only worth voting for if Labour wanted to stay in Opposition.

He said: “If you want a really good, vigorous outriding opposition and you want to continue being in opposition, vote for somebody who is good at opposition.”

ExecLine - 20 Aug 2015 10:47 - 62052 of 81564

Some might say, that anyone who joins the Labour party using one of these £3 membership facilities, so as to be able to vote for 'hard leftist' Jeremy Corbyn and thereby try to make the Labour party unelectable, is morally participating in political election corruption (but at the lowest legal level).

There again, some others might not (say that).

But where are all the Labour Party heavyweights? We are not hearin much from them. The only ones I can recollect speaking in public and have seen speaking on TV are Blair and Brown, the ex-PMs. The latter didn't want to mention Corbyn by name. Absolutely nothing from the Milibands and other pre-GE 'has beens'.

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 10:51 - 62053 of 81564

David Milliband has come out against Corbyn and in favour of Cooper.

hilary - 20 Aug 2015 11:10 - 62054 of 81564

Doc,

What about anyone who joins the Labour party using more than one of these £3 membership facilities?

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 11:22 - 62055 of 81564

All this is down to Ed Miliband changing the leadership election rules. At least the Conservatives only put the shortlisted candidates to the party faithful after the MPs choose people who they would accept as leader. Corbyn cannot survive without the support of his MPs.

It is win win for the Conservatives. If there is a coup then Labour will tear themselves apart. If Corbyn stays leader then there will be a lunatic in charge of the opposition with the MPs defying the whip and unelectable policies.

cynic - 20 Aug 2015 11:38 - 62056 of 81564

never ever gloat as the theory and the actuality as in many areas of life never quite pans out as expected

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 11:39 - 62057 of 81564

Corbyn doesn't seem to be helping Labour

Latest Comres poll

CON 40%, LAB 29%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%,

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 11:51 - 62058 of 81564

The upcoming battle between the left and right of Labour is another episode of their internal struggle. Kinnock tried to kill off the Militant Tendency and Blair scrapped Clause IV. The final battle has yet to come. It won't even be resolved this time. It will take another generation before Labour decides if it continues to live in the past or move on to be a modern party.

Parties do change their nature over time. It is difficult to imagine that Lincoln was leader of the Republican party. The Democrats and Republicans held more or less opposite views to their current ones.

ExecLine - 20 Aug 2015 14:08 - 62059 of 81564

Q. Guess who is growing a beard?

Ans: Since they are provenly popular, it's Ed 'Corbyn' Miliband.

ExecLine - 20 Aug 2015 14:37 - 62060 of 81564

What a quite lovely funeral and commemoration for Cilla Black or 'Liverpool's Cinderella', as she was affectionately referred to by Jimmy Tarbuck.

Of particular note:

Famous close friends in attendance, too numerous to mention.

Absolutely stupendous singing of 'The Faithful One' and kind words said by Cliff Richard.

A brilliant personal euology from Paul O'Grady - who was invited by the bishop after telling it, to say 'Three Hail Mary's'. :-)

RIP. Cilla Black

Haystack - 20 Aug 2015 14:43 - 62061 of 81564

Russell Brand has endorsed Corbyn. That is the kiss of death.
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