Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Jeremy Corbyn could face Labour MPs' coup 'within days of being elected leader'

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month

Moderate Labour MPs have been in discussions how to overthrow hard Left Jeremy Corbyn if he is crowned Labour leader next month, The Telegraph can disclose.

The MPs are understood to have held informal talks about challenging Mr Corbyn when Parliament returns to work next month.

This could see Mr Corbyn fighting for his political life at the party’s annual conference, just days after he has been elected leader.

Mr Corbyn is currently on course to be unveiled as the Labour party’s leader when the result is announced at a special conference at the Queen Elizabeth Conference Centre in Westminster central London on September 12.

Yvette Cooper is locked in a bitter battle with Andy Burnham to be Mr Corbyn's main challenger, while the other contender Liz Kendall, who has been backed by Labour’s Blairite wing, lags behind in a distant fourth place

Parliament returns on September 7 and sits until September 17, when Labour MPs decamp to Brighton for the party’s annual Autumn conference.

To trigger a new leadership campaign, 20 per cent of the Parliamentary Labour party (PLP) – 46 MPs – would have to tell the party's National Executive Committee that they support a rival candidate.

The party’s rules state: “Where there is no vacancy, nominations may be sought by potential challengers each year prior to the annual session of Party conference.

“In this case any nomination must be supported by 20 per cent of the Commons members of the PLP. Nominations not attaining this threshold shall be null and void.”

Any attempt to unseat Mr Corbyn would be more likely if the hard Left MP only narrowly wins the election.

One source: “There is talk among MPs who are alarmed about what will happen. That is certainly the case. I don’t think there will be a problem getting the numbers.”

Harriet Harman, the acting leader, last week expressed concern that as many as a fifth of the 120,000 party supporters who paid £3 to join the party could be alleged “infiltrators".

Labour MPs are worried that the Parliamentary party would look out of touch if they decided to reject a leader such as Mr Corbyn who had won the contest overwhelmingly.

But one shadow Cabinet minister laid bare the panic in the mainstream party, telling this week’s New Statesman magazine: “It is like a bad dream.”

David Blunkett, who was Home secretary under Tony Blair’s leadership, said that Mr Corbyn was only worth voting for if Labour wanted to stay in Opposition.

He said: “If you want a really good, vigorous outriding opposition and you want to continue being in opposition, vote for somebody who is good at opposition.”

Some might say, that anyone who joins the Labour party using one of these £3 membership facilities, so as to be able to vote for 'hard leftist' Jeremy Corbyn and thereby try to make the Labour party unelectable, is morally participating in political election corruption (but at the lowest legal level).

There again, some others might not (say that).

But where are all the Labour Party heavyweights? We are not hearin much from them. The only ones I can recollect speaking in public and have seen speaking on TV are Blair and Brown, the ex-PMs. The latter didn't want to mention Corbyn by name. Absolutely nothing from the Milibands and other pre-GE 'has beens'.

David Milliband has come out against Corbyn and in favour of Cooper.

Doc,

What about anyone who joins the Labour party using more than one of these £3 membership facilities?

All this is down to Ed Miliband changing the leadership election rules. At least the Conservatives only put the shortlisted candidates to the party faithful after the MPs choose people who they would accept as leader. Corbyn cannot survive without the support of his MPs.

It is win win for the Conservatives. If there is a coup then Labour will tear themselves apart. If Corbyn stays leader then there will be a lunatic in charge of the opposition with the MPs defying the whip and unelectable policies.

never ever gloat as the theory and the actuality as in many areas of life never quite pans out as expected

Corbyn doesn't seem to be helping Labour

Latest Comres poll

CON 40%, LAB 29%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 13%, GRN 4%,

The upcoming battle between the left and right of Labour is another episode of their internal struggle. Kinnock tried to kill off the Militant Tendency and Blair scrapped Clause IV. The final battle has yet to come. It won't even be resolved this time. It will take another generation before Labour decides if it continues to live in the past or move on to be a modern party.

Parties do change their nature over time. It is difficult to imagine that Lincoln was leader of the Republican party. The Democrats and Republicans held more or less opposite views to their current ones.

Q. Guess who is growing a beard?

Ans: Since they are provenly popular, it's Ed 'Corbyn' Miliband.

What a quite lovely funeral and commemoration for Cilla Black or 'Liverpool's Cinderella', as she was affectionately referred to by Jimmy Tarbuck.

Of particular note:

Famous close friends in attendance, too numerous to mention.

Absolutely stupendous singing of 'The Faithful One' and kind words said by Cliff Richard.

A brilliant personal euology from Paul O'Grady - who was invited by the bishop after telling it, to say 'Three Hail Mary's'. :-)

RIP. Cilla Black

Russell Brand has endorsed Corbyn. That is the kiss of death.

Jezzaggedon is a coming together of The Great Unwashed.

i fail to understand why these migrants are not sent back to their point of entry, even if not whence they came

SWEDEN AND SYRIAN REFUGEES
very interesting section on breakfast tv just now
sweden accepts all who get to/through their borders, which is very laudable of course and the national moral halo is shining beyond belief
however, there are now are now areas which are exclusively syrian where swedish is neither spoken nor understood; further, they cannot find jobs and children cannot find school places
just as importantly, racial tensions are now rising with the far right party swiftly gaining ground

another case of the reality not matching expectations, with more worrying aspects in its train

It is interesting that the EU estimates the black economy to increase the UK's GDP and its contribution to the EU budget but doesnt care to estimate the many thousands of economic migrants managing to reach here on the back of a lorry, or through passport exchanges, when complaining about the UK not wishing to accept an additional quota from Europe.

Corbyn quote at a Green event

He wanted “houses with gardens for everyone,” and added that “anyone who wants to be a beekeeper should be a beekeeper.”