Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

strangely, i never read the mail and rarely the telegraph ..... most days i read the version of the guardian that is delivered daily on my e-mail and linked to the internet

you really are so unbelievably pompous and supercilious at times, if not at all times

Manuel.

You are improving yourself as you get older.

Aren't the words in the Guardian a bit long for you?

Mind there is still a long way for you to go.

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Ps.

I wonder if you have enough time left?

Can we all be friends on these pages - do we have to piss one another off all the time -

fred has been pissing off everyone for ages .... it's clearly the only fun he has left in his life

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/09/06/no-increase-syrian-refugee-numbers/

No increase in Syrian refugee numbers – public

Most British people say there should be no increase in admissions of Syrian refugees – and concerns over immigration have reached an all-time high

David Cameron gave in to pressure to increase the number of Syrian refugees Britain takes on Friday – he now is reportedly prepared to accept 15,000 – after a week in which hundreds of thousands of refugees entered Germany and other European countries – and the continent was stirred by a picture of a drowned Syrian child washed up on a beach. Some British newspapers that are traditionally averse to accepting asylum seekers were moved by the picture, urging readers to help.

New YouGov research for the Sun reveals that most British people do not want more Syrian refugees in Britain. Slightly more than a third (36%) say Britain should admit higher numbers than it has recently, but 51% say it should not.

These divide between the 24% of people who want the numbers to remain as now – Britain has accepted nearly 5,000 over the last four years – and those who want there to be a reduction in numbers (13%) or a complete hold. (14%).

Syrians account for the largest proportion of refugees in the current crisis, but there are also hundreds of thousands from Afghanistan, Kosovo, Eritrea, Serbia and other countries. 28% say Britain should accept more of these refugees, while 60% say we should not.

Regarding people in search of a better life, but not fleeing conflict or persecution, only 5% say we should accept higher numbers than recently. Of these, 37% say we should not accept any at all and 30% say we should accept fewer than recently.

Of the people who can put a number on how many Syrian refugees Britain should take, 50% say it should be zero.

Only 21% of the public say David Cameron has handled the crisis well, compared to 45% who say he has handled it badly.

Most British people (52%) would support Britain playing a greater military role in bringing an end to war in Syria. 22% would oppose this.

There has been a large increase in the proportion of people who say immigration is the most important issue facing the country. The economy is usually the number one issue, however 71% now say immigration is – the highest level since YouGov began asking the question in 2010 – compared to 35% for the economy.

Geldof’s promise of shelter for refugees is ‘pie in the sky’, says local government chief

Leading figure in LGA asks: ‘Were these people ready yesterday to take any of those on the housing waiting list?’


Daniel Boffey Policy editor

Saturday 5 September 2015 20.20 BST



David Cameron has been warned by the Conservative-run Local Government Association that he must take into account the significant impact on schools, housing and GPs’ surgeries of allowing thousands more refugees into the country.

David Simmonds, chairman of the LGA’s asylum, migration and refugee task force, which coordinates councils’ integration of newcomers to the UK, said it was easy to say that “something must be done”, but that the costs attached to taking in more people had to be recognised.

He added that the offer from the rock star Bob Geldof to put up families in his homes in Kent and London was “pie in sky”.



“If Bob Geldof is willing to make that offer, I’m sure his local council, which will already have a lot of people on its housing waiting list, will be very happy to bring them around this afternoon.”



More: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/05/geldof-refugees-pie-in-sky

Fred is a tropical storm in the atlantic !....one to watch......I wish the BBC and ITV would stop promoting these people that are invading us because more will want to come....how about somebody starting a stop the migrant cause with some tv promotion instead of the usual crap they put out....?....

We are always admiring our great past/history but can you imagine those wonderful people putting up with what the british public do nowadays......this migrant problem would be dealt with swiftly and promptly....I would stop the boats...if they were sinking as they always are : I would give them new rubber boats/zodiacs...that sort of thing and turn them around.....this problem will not go away unless drastic mesures are taken and the do-gooders get less tv help/promotion...this must be stopped.....

It is interesting to remember that the child that drowned and was found on the beach was on a small boat trying to get to Greece from Turkey. They had already escaped Syria as many have. They did not want to stay in Turkey, but wanted to travel to more prosperous countries.

The outpouring of emotion for this family has been generated by the press and is somewhat hypocritical. There have been reports of immigrants drowning on a daily basis; sometimes hundreds at a time including women, children and babies. What did people think was happening to the bodies? Apparently, it is not a problem if people do not see pictures of of it.

Got to say i agree with both rf and Hays above ...

Hays,

I hope you can say the same if one of your children or relatives is knocked down by a car or lorry, after all it is an everyday occurrence and no remorse, regrets nor empathy should be shown.

You wouldn't want to be hypocritical!

Good luck!

I agree about the TV coverage it's gone too far , programs about immigrants , migrants , islam , muslims Gypsies ,drug dealers, thieves illegal this that , people who have 15 ,16 whatever kids , benefit fraud etc etc . I feel like I live in a cesspit . TV is getting less and less attractive to watch , and how it,s influencing the younger generation I DON,T KNOW .

sorry to repeat, but herewith an extract from 62309 ....

the case for proven syrian refugees is a different matter altogether, though i thoroughly concur that the gov't has taken far too long to grasp this
that said, the precaution of only admitting refugees from syrian-based camps has strong merits, for that at least gives a degree of control of who comes into this country and who does not

It gives no control at all.

It's a small diversion via some other €uroland country only.

Once documented they can they transit to wherever they like.

it gives much more control that the crazy german system now in place where all and sundry can cross the borders, with all its other ramifications

More reason why i think the polls may be wrong and we vote out of the EU .

the dead child on the beach the father killed them a vile and greedy man why has he not been charged with murder if a british person did what that arsewipe did would be charged with murder

get us out of the stinking rotten eu even my doctor now wants out
ever one I know will vote out .

When people around the world read of all this it could perpetuate the problem completely out of control , sounds like a green light to these people , everyone else will want to get in . Merkel could be overseeing the destruction of the EU. Sounds dramatic but these are unprecedented times . She's lost it .