Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

killing of 2 terrorists
i confess i remain somewhat uneasy about the "legality" in its broadest sense

in this specific instance, i am very happy to accept the argument of "serious threat to national security", and i most certainly do not think the intelligence information behind this should be made public

however, if you take this considerably further down the road, how do you differentiate or draw the line between this sort of "judicial murder" and say the poisoning of litvinenko?

JB,

It isn't the action which counts but the unintended consequences of the action.

In the case of "the drones" it is the stupidity of the action which and the probable lies around the action and the use of it to divert public attention for Cameron's other actions.

But of course it appeals to the hot heads and the up and at them brigade of camp followers.

Interesting forecasts for economy, employment (not minimum hours). But, of course, problems all due to Labour previous incompetence (six years ago) not due to Osborne's incompetence, and/or World economy.

But it is all down to immigrants.

Another diversion by a rotten government!

Maybe they were about to carryout an attack on someone or something , so you either have those two gloating over slaughtering innocents , or you take them out at best opportunity you have . You can be sure of one thing , that there are people walking around today that wouldn't be if those two were still around . I know which way I would want it .

When leaders of ISIS have been targeted there has been no outcry about extra judicial executions. These current couple are essentially no different. They are part of the ISIS terror group. The only difference is that they are British. That should make no difference. In a war, do we shrink from killing British people who have gone over to the other side? In WWII would we have hesitated to fight British people who were fighting for the Germans. What difference is there between shooting an enemy face to face on the battlefield, killing them by shelling at a distance, dropping bombs on them, firing missiles at them and killing them with a drone?

Hays - That is too much like common sense to the loony left.

The migrants arriving in Lesbos are not fleeing a war zone. They are crossing from Turkey, which is not in the EU. Why isn't the EU deporting them back to Turkey? Turkey is responsible for them. It is Turkey that needs to negotiate with the EU and other countries regarding the taking of the immigrants.

And ISIS consider you with the same blinkered glasses on!

Can't expect Turkey to cope. Time for UK and EU to step up. See no problem with UK taking 6,000 a month for the next couple of years

I am not expecting Turkey to cope, but they should be processing and registering them. Then they can get agreement from the EU and other countries to take them. The child that was found on the beach did not make a long sea voyage from a war zone. Lesbos for instance is 3 miles from Turkey. He drowned because his parents were not satisfied to have escaped a war zone and wanted to get somewhere with better prospects than Turkey such as Germany. As soon as they arrived in Turkey, they became economic migrants and stopped being refugees.

The EU and UK have done nothing for years. The refuges had to take it into their own hands. Now its time for EU including UK to get off their lardy arses and do something. How long can you expect people to suffer in transit camps?

Why specifically mention the EU and UK? What about the even larger number other countries? There is the US, Australia, Israel even and plenty of other that are taking none. Lebanon has around 2 million from Syria and have several thousand refugee camps.

The child on the beach is iconic of what is happening.

Personally, I think the UK and America have a responsibility for the problems by their invasion of Iraq and lack of planning for the aftermath. But the UN should be more active in supervision.

Also, it is good to see who are the good guys and bad guys in Syria.

Perhaps, based who Cameron can do business deals or arms deal with.

I would like to know who armed ISIS originally before they looted the USA arms depot.

Saudi Arabia UEA India Pakistan Canada Egypt Japan Africa , oh no not Africa cause they're all trying to come to Europe , Umm let me think Romania they'll have PLENTY of room cause they're all coming here , let's see if I could just find a map , anyway just delete any unfriendly countries .

Apparently some one thinks the answer is to let everyone that's not happy , should be allowed to just walk into Britain/EU .

Not acceptable to insist other countries act before we act. Do we not have a moral responsibility for our own actions.? Time for us to lift our share of the worlds burden. Lebanon can't cope. Can't see any problem with UK taking 100k + this year. We already take in 600k migrants so a fraction more refugees is neither here nor there. Also not possible to paddle to USA/Australia. When your grandchildren ask you where did you stand on the refugee crisis it will be a bit cringing to say we did our bit and took in 216 last year.

Not acceptable to insist other countries act before we act. Do we not have a moral responsibility for our own actions.? Time for us to lift our share of the worlds burden. Lebanon can't cope. Can't see any problem with UK taking 100k + this year. We already take in 600k migrants so a fraction more refugees is neither here nor there. Also not possible to paddle to USA/Australia. When your grandchildren ask you where did you stand on the refugee crisis it will be a bit cringing to say we did our bit and took in 216 last year.

Not talking but anyone that's unhappy coming to UK. Refugees are from war torn countries escaping for there lives.

Why don't you go and fight for them if your so concerned .

We took in thousands last year. The 216 is lefty propaganda put about by rags like the Mirror. It is not a question of other countries acting before us. It is expecting them to act at the same time. We are going to take immigrants from refugee camps on the Syrian border where they can be processed. The free for all accepting of millions of immigrants into Europe is a recipe for disaster. ISIS are using this as a route to export terrorists to the EU and the UK. This has been shown already. Such large numbers coming into European countries will change the culture of many of the countries. And most importantly, the free access to the EU will just encourage even more to make dangerous journeys. Since recent arrivals, the tide of immigrants has increased.

I am not sure why, but some of above reminds me of the saying "That some know the price of everything and the value of nothing."

Lives don't count, it is cash in the pockets which matters, and it doesn't matter how it got there!