peteark
- 24 May 2005 13:03
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insiderinside
- 09 Jun 2005 15:50
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Advan - you were close.
CCR IMO will have no positive effect on next results - it may have a negative effect though due to reductions on the calling card side of EVS.
There has been more competition in - which may also effect the next results.
Longer term CCR might be a benefit - however short term is what matters now - if the trading update is very good I will be in to say well done - likewise I do hope that if there is not one or its not good - you will also make comment on it in a negative light.
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 15:56
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I always told the ex-wife, I will back you up if I think you are right, but I will not make myself look a fool arguing for you if I believe you to be wrong!!
As in the case of CCR/EVS, if the trading update is poor, I will be the first to show my disappointment.
However, I do have an ankling of the areas CCR are stretching into and they will not disappoint!!!!
thirdtime
- 09 Jun 2005 15:57
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ii - "There has been more competition in" - would you please substantiate this comment.
Many thanks.
If there is a weak trading statement I very much doubt any holders will be trying to put a positive spin on things. Probably hit the CCR dealership a bit too!!
thirdtime
- 09 Jun 2005 15:57
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advans - something biting your leg?
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 16:13
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Don't think so!
Haystack
- 09 Jun 2005 16:16
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Price just dropped again. The bid is down, so it looks like the MMs don't want any stock. Sellers dominating!
Level 2 is very good on here.
C NILE
- 09 Jun 2005 16:51
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I've also registered to become a dealer. My company has 900 live B2B accounts and 600 retail punters per day buying from my shops. Lets see how many we can convert to CCR.
peteark
- 09 Jun 2005 17:16
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Cnile, the quickest and easiest way to get started as a dealer is to get either Advan or me to sign you up, if you want me to get on the case, email me at pete@085.ndo.co.uk
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 17:18
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Not so C Nile eh?????
Oh this is bound to be a failure isn't it! A drain on resources! A thorn in the side of Envesta! Seven's downfall!
Based on the amount of dealers presently signed up, I would estimate that about 25000 numbers would have been issued to date.
If each of those only utilised 15 minutes per month, that would equate to 75000 hours per annum of call time. Of course, that is a 'today' guesstimate.
Tomorrow may see another 5-10 dealers!
And 15 minutes a month would probably be a joke anyway!
I will not be at all suprised if we saw a positive revenue increase in the first trading statement regarding CCR and that is only within three-four months since launch!
If that WERE the case, I wonder just where that would put the SP?
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 17:20
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NOTE YOU DIDNT PUT MY CONTACT DETAILS IN YOU GREEDY B!!!
thirdtime
- 09 Jun 2005 17:22
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LOL!!!!! I think prospective dealers should start a bidding war for their business!!!!
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 17:26
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I think me an Pete should just form a partnership and amalgamate our customers!
He has the brawn (and of course the foul mouth and abusive manner, useful for threatening people into signing up) and I have the civvy street business head to keep him reined in!!
Haystack
- 09 Jun 2005 17:38
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I love reading the posts of advansuk. The way he calulates possible minutes usage and subsequent revenue from nothing but a fertile imagination.
The back of fag packet calculations have probably lost investors more money than anything. The number of times I have seen posts that suggest that a company might get this many enquiries and if only 10% decided to buy and if each of them bought again and recommended their friends........ Well you can imagine the rest. In the end the company actually sold to almost no one and they went bust. How many times has that happened?
He also tries to base possible business levels on the Alexa rankings of web site hits for the CCR site. Of course, this is the same method, same fag packet but applied differently.
LOL
peteark
- 09 Jun 2005 18:06
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Amalgamate our customers I have 6 customers 4 of which are businesses, Advan has 1........I supose if I received a large cheque I could be persuaded.
advans
- 09 Jun 2005 20:24
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you're a bit out of date mate!!!!!!!
peteark
- 09 Jun 2005 21:18
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I thought flares were back in!!!!!!!!!
peteark
- 09 Jun 2005 21:33
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Hey I dont mind you doing well, I will congratulate you!!!!!!!!!
REDHILL
- 09 Jun 2005 22:49
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insiderinside
Who's expecting news? Early July is my guess and not before.Not long to go!
RED
QUINAN
- 10 Jun 2005 07:43
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Morning all, RED I agree wont see news till July, as year end is 30th of June and the last TS for full year results was on the 01 July 2004. One thing that is clear and that is CCR is getting a lot of coverage if we are going by the Alexa rating, as many have stated that the cheap call market is very competitive but EVS seen to be doing a good job promoting it. It maybe that they are concentrating on recruiting dealers at this stage rather than peeps of the street, this in-turn will pay dividends.
Lets say CCR recreate 500 dealers each sign up 10 peeps each spend 5 per month that makes a nice 25,000 per month.
Now if pete and advan get there act together and stop bickering over who will win the race in their sign up competition and there are recruiting 10 dealers a month, and EVS are recruiting 30 per month, we could see 1000 dealers by the end of the finical year and if we go on the currant spend rate it could earn EVS after cost 480,000 profit not bad for the fist year.
advans
- 10 Jun 2005 07:57
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currant spend rate? What currency is that then Quin? Always one for 'raisin' a joke, you!
Morning all!