Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

great welfare state, especially if you aren't a taxpayer!

To avoid you?

This idea of taking asylum seekers direct from Syria is all very well and sounds fine.

But what happens when the hoard in say, Germany, who decide the benefits aint up to scratch and want to come here, whats to prevent them?

indeed, and once they have their proper papers there's nothing to be done to stop them

I think if you claim asylum in a country it takes quite a while to get citizenship/ passport etc ,although i did point this out the other day when they are settled then yes they are EU citizens .
I havn't joined in with this today as i just can't be bothered with the do gooders calling anyone who does not agree with them BNP or EDL or little Englanders ,it's pathetic.

So, Cameroons show of force is a sham, a pretence to gull the populace into thinking he has control of the situation.


Now why did I suspect there might be a flaw in the projected outcome as outlined by the flim-flam man?

It's all bad news , but not for UKIP . if we had a General election tomorrow UKIP would be sharing power with the tory's

Merkel has said that if it is found that the immigrants are economic migrants rather than fleeing from conflict then they will be sent back.

Look at Newsnight tonight ,look at what's happening in the Yemen ,where does it end ? we will have to rescue half of the Middle East.

Hays how will she do that it will be too late when they are there .

We have sent back quite a few over the last year whose asylum claims have been rejected

A tiny percentage, joke shop stuff.

The fact of the matter is, there are so many avenues to go down where immigration law is concerned, the main aim is to be present on the soil you wish to settle on, and failing that, next door.

It's not by chance, it is by design.

No problem with immigrants/refugees but then 20 years down the road they want the laws changed to accommodate their beliefs / dress code , blah blah blah.

Sod that , you don't like it here then bugger off back.

Most are economic migrants from Syria and be should be shipped back or better still the millions we have pledged to help them would be better spent blockading the ports they are leaving from.

US are very quiet and they caused the problem.

... and as for Corbyn , makes Michael Foote look right wing and electable.

He'll be the end of the Labour party.

Only good thing that has happened since Cameron won the election in May is his the chance of him getting a yes vote for us to stay in the EU have nose-dived.

Don't know what Corbyn's views on the EU are but probably wants us out to join a new economic trading coalition with China and Russia.

Thank fe*k he'll never have the chance.

jimmy b you are not a racist you are someone that gives a dam about this Nation and it's people and the people who fought and died to keep it free . But unfortunatley due to now outdated laws of all sorts that don't fit in with the modern world ie mass movement con artist's freeloaders people traffickers low lifes ETC . It's kicking off big time because of do gooders ETC . You like me are sick and tired of this constant barage of the Briish are anti this that and everything . They have to start looking at ways to protect this Nation not line the pockets of endless Lawyers Barristers and all . The sooner they learn to leave these countries sort their own problems the better .

Yes, I would leave it to the "do gooders" on this thread!

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"This week, Caroline Lucas, the Green MP for Brighton Pavilion, asked David Cameron a somewhat troubling question in light of the refugee crisis.

At prime minister's questions, she asked:

The ongoing harrowing refugee crisis is fuelled by conflict, which in turn is powered in part by the global arms trade.

The UK has supplied the weapons being used in many areas from which people are now fleeing, including Yemen and Libya.

In the week that London will once again host the largest arms fair in the world, is it not time for the Government to recognise the link between arms sales and the terrible tragedy that we see unfolding around us?


Cameron’s response was as follows:

First, we have some of the strictest rules anywhere in the world for selling arms to other countries. If the hon. Lady thinks that the reason why so many people are fleeing Syria is something to do with the arms trade, the fact is that it is because Assad is butchering his own people and because we have an Islamist extremist, terrorist organisation running a large part of two countries—Iraq and Syria.

Those are the problems that we have to confront, rather than pretending it is about something else.
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So who is right?

In March of this year, the UK government was found in a report by the Parliamentary Committee on Arms Export Controls to have supplied £5.2bn worth of arms export licenses to countries listed as being of “human rights concern” by the Foreign & Commonwealth Office, including Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Ukraine and Russia.

The committee urged the government to be "significantly more cautious" in the handing out of export licenses and said:"


So that is done and we have clean hands.

Victim.

jimmy b you are not a racist you are someone that gives a dam about this Nation and it's people and the people who fought and died to keep it free . But unfortunatley due to now outdated laws of all sorts that don't fit in with the modern world ie mass movement con artist's freeloaders people traffickers low lifes ETC .

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I suggest you look at the constituents of the Allied Forces in WW2 and subsequent0 "wars", who "fought" for Britain and the way their various countries and see how they were treated subsequently.

fred - i don't exactly concur that history is bunkum, but though what you allude to above is absolutely correct, it was 70 years ago and times, mores and circumstances have changed

we now live a very different world, and it is that with which we have to deal
in a similar vein, i think it total crap that britain is expected to apologise today for the existence of slavery - albeit that that whole argument is based on a fallacy anyway

Fred where did you get that laptop ?

Just sometimes Fred people just want to express an opinion you know , right , they just want to say something off the cuff see . You want people to consult the Encyclopedia Brittanica before they post for god's sake ,