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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

VICTIM - 15 Sep 2015 11:22 - 62868 of 81564

Maybe there's a few oil barrels in each tent .

Haystack - 15 Sep 2015 11:26 - 62869 of 81564

I saw Saudi officials interviewed on CNN a few days ago talking about the refugees that they have been taking.

cynic - 15 Sep 2015 11:39 - 62870 of 81564

what they say and what they do often bear little similarity
i'm sure there are many saudi ministers and the like who would also claim that saudi is progressive and fosters the advancement of women

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 11:49 - 62871 of 81564

all eu countries should just put all migrants on transport to Germany they are responsible for the crises telling them they are welcome let the germans sort it out
they have created a massive problem . send them all to Germany

cynic - 15 Sep 2015 12:20 - 62872 of 81564

trades union reform
The second reading in the Commons is the key test of whether legislation is likely to get through a vote of MPs – but the bill now has to go through a lengthy stage of line-by-line scrutiny in committee

i hope that some of the more plain spiteful clauses are at least amended
the concept of the reform is spot-on, but the detail looks in places to have gone overboard

Haystack - 15 Sep 2015 12:55 - 62873 of 81564

Already done.

The second reading of the Trades Union Bill passed last night with a vote of 317 vote to 284, a majority of 33, following more than six hours of debate. I watched the vote last night on the Parliament channel. Labour looked a bit muffed when the result came in. Committee stage next.

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:01 - 62874 of 81564

or national strike

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:03 - 62875 of 81564

hungry the only leaders with common sense and balls well done 3 cheers for a great leader

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:05 - 62876 of 81564

Poland will not take forced migrants they do not want them

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:07 - 62877 of 81564

breaking news on bbc Germany giving 5b euros Italy 3b the rest nothing

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:08 - 62878 of 81564

france spain Poland have said they will not donate any money

cynic - 15 Sep 2015 13:09 - 62879 of 81564

it's the committee stage that i hope will modify some of the more silly clauses, notwithstanding that the gov't will have the most members therein
i think much good and hard work gets accomplished at this stage

Haystack - 15 Sep 2015 13:19 - 62880 of 81564

Following second reading the House of Commons agreed a programme motion which schedules the public bill committee to conclude by Tuesday 27 October 2015, but could finish earlier.

Fred1new - 15 Sep 2015 13:31 - 62881 of 81564

I think the real stumbling block will be the HL.


Victim,

You posted, "Sorry if this is basic.".

Did you mean "biased"?

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:32 - 62882 of 81564

migrants will fight for benefits but cowards who will not fight for freedom and their country yes bloody cowards thank the brittish they did not run away from the Nazis

cynic - 15 Sep 2015 13:33 - 62883 of 81564

am i not correct in thinking that HL can also and often does suggest amendments?

cynic - 15 Sep 2015 13:36 - 62884 of 81564

62885 - ah yes; squadron 303 which was famed throughout the raf and scored the most kills - 126 in 42 days :-)

Haystack - 15 Sep 2015 13:42 - 62885 of 81564

The Lords by convention do not vote down legislation that is in the Queen's speech. It was introduced after the 1945 when Labour had a majority in the Commons and almost no Lords. That would have meant no Labour legislation being passed. The Conservatives agreed to accept legislation that was in the Labour manifesto and Queen's speech.

TANKER - 15 Sep 2015 13:42 - 62886 of 81564

why are the migrants not going to Bulgaria or Romania right in front of them .
answer is simple NO BENEFITS
WELL DONE HUNGRY

Haystack - 15 Sep 2015 13:43 - 62887 of 81564

The Salisbury Convention (officially called the Salisbury Doctrine,[1] the Salisbury-Addison Convention or the Salisbury/Addison Convention) is a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom under which the House of Lords will not oppose the second or third reading of any government legislation promised in its election manifesto.[2]

Following a landslide Labour general election victory in 1945, there were only 16 Labour peers in the House of Lords, led by Lord Addison. Throughout the 20th century, the second chamber had an in-built Conservative majority. However, it was believed that because Clement Attlee's Labour government had a clear mandate to deliver the policies of nationalisation and welfare state measures, the House of Lords should not oppose such legislation at second reading.

Lord Addison and Lord Salisbury (then Lord Cranborne), the Conservative leader in the House of Lords from 1942 to 1957, both with memories of the troubles leading to the passing of the Parliament Act 1911, agreed that anything promised in a party's manifesto would eventually pass; anything else would be subject to full debate. In its modern form, the convention still permits the offering of reasoned amendments to a motion for second reading of a Government bill, provided such amendments are not wrecking amendments designed to destroy the bill.
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