Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

The Lords by convention do not vote down legislation that is in the Queen's speech. It was introduced after the 1945 when Labour had a majority in the Commons and almost no Lords. That would have meant no Labour legislation being passed. The Conservatives agreed to accept legislation that was in the Labour manifesto and Queen's speech.

why are the migrants not going to Bulgaria or Romania right in front of them .
answer is simple NO BENEFITS
WELL DONE HUNGRY

The Salisbury Convention (officially called the Salisbury Doctrine,[1] the Salisbury-Addison Convention or the Salisbury/Addison Convention) is a constitutional convention in the United Kingdom under which the House of Lords will not oppose the second or third reading of any government legislation promised in its election manifesto.[2]

Following a landslide Labour general election victory in 1945, there were only 16 Labour peers in the House of Lords, led by Lord Addison. Throughout the 20th century, the second chamber had an in-built Conservative majority. However, it was believed that because Clement Attlee's Labour government had a clear mandate to deliver the policies of nationalisation and welfare state measures, the House of Lords should not oppose such legislation at second reading.

Lord Addison and Lord Salisbury (then Lord Cranborne), the Conservative leader in the House of Lords from 1942 to 1957, both with memories of the troubles leading to the passing of the Parliament Act 1911, agreed that anything promised in a party's manifesto would eventually pass; anything else would be subject to full debate. In its modern form, the convention still permits the offering of reasoned amendments to a motion for second reading of a Government bill, provided such amendments are not wrecking amendments designed to destroy the bill.

hays - there's surely a difference from voting down and sending a bill back to HC with suggested amendments for reconsideration?

Of course. What will happen in practice is that the Commons will generally vote out the Lords amendments if they don't like them. The Lords is supposed to be a revising chamber. The revisions being suggested amendments.

I'm only 11 yrs old Fred ,

Gosh,

You are a big boy!

You may improve yet!

8-)

Anyway Fred as you seem to spend so much time and energy knocking the Cons , what did you do when Labour were in , you must have been over the moon when Blair decided to murder all those poor Iraqi's . Do these current problems pale into insignifigance compared to Blairs time .and do you sleep at night . A basic answer will do .

i'll speak up for fred for a change ...... he didn't care for blair either!
fred comes from a family of pretty hard-left utopians, and blair always fell well short of that

I condemned Blair for the stupidity of joining Bush in the invasion of Iraq and lack of aftermath planning.

But also remember IDS walking from no 10 with a smirk on his face and spring in his step after agreeing to the decision.

Condemned Blair and parts of his administration on policies.

Short sighted!

But less so than Osborne and Wavy Dave!

Fred I'm sure you would be a good person to spend a night in a pub with , quite entertaining . I bet your not a bit like your bb persona on here .

Worse!

Anybody on here playing MAM's Fantasy investor ?

fred is well known for nursing his 1/2 of mild/bitter (when he has to buy his own) for at least 3 hours while hogging a seat at the bar and being generally curmudgeonly ...... apparently the landlord wants to ban him, his entertainment value being minimal for the pain he causes :-)

Manuel,

Were you the miserable looking bastide sitting next to me at the bar cadging drinks and the bug ... off to have a pee when it was his round

Complaining he couldn't hold his water any longer.

I thought I recognised you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDJyhf1VQL4

Parliament today: Tax credit cuts vote passed by 325 votes to 290 - a majority of 35

can't have been; i'ld have been afraid you'ld gob in my drink at best ..... at least no risk of rohypnol :-)

Fred only uses Rohypnol in the sheep field on the walk home.

Why are you all picking on Fred?

And whats happened to Stan?