Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred so maybe your pseudonym should be Cynic after your last sentence . Don't tell me It's taken all these months to start realising all may not be as it seems . Or have you underestimated the African mind , in this age of Mobiles etc someones organising what's going on . But I'm sure you'll have flowery twat reasoning behind it . Not much gets past you mate .

#1 ...... i don't think my grandparents had much if any choice as to where they ended up
USA was probably fave, but often, as happened to my grandfather, they paid stowage to USA but were actually dumped in L'pool
there was of course no welfare state, so by and large, it was the jewish community that looked after their own, and no one else


during the last war, as you probably know, to get into UK, a (jewish) refugee had to have a sponsor who in turn had to provide proof that this refugee would not be a burden on the state


#2 ........ how far back in history do you want to go so can impose blame?


#3 ........ you do not comment upon, "countries also have prime responsibility for determining their own condition, rhodesia and a number of other african nations being excellent examples"

#2

As far back to the Anglo-Saxon, Normans and other Victims.

I would get rid of the lot.

# 8-)

Croatia now getting the treatment, as Hungary has blocked the border.


The vast majority are young males...what is Merkel going to do with them when they get to Germany?

Victim,

By the way, I think it is all a conspiracy!

Everything.

You getting irritated Cynic sorry I mean Fred .

Some times Fred goes back to the Slave trade , but he don't mention African and Arab tribes supplied the white slave traders.

And he goes back as far as saying we in England are all immigrants , because we walked over from france when there was no sea between us and Europe

They should be in Saudi Arabia. Why in Europe?

Tried to put a bet on Corbyn not being Labour leader. The best odds were Corbyn gone by end 2015 7/2 and end of 2016 7/4. Those ods do not do much to support Corbyn being Prime Minister.

Odds of Corbyn not being leader at next election odds on 1/2.

Corbyn doing PMQs without beard 5/1

Corbyn refusing to kneel before Queen odds on 4/6.

Hays,

What are the odds on you being an arse licker?

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Sorry cynic, if I embarrassed you!

ooh Fred suits you sir !

fred - why or how would you embarrass me?

Normal service is resumed!

Now Croatia has the problem ,

Croatia has closed seven of its eight road border crossings with Serbia following a huge influx of migrants.
Officials said they had no choice after more than 11,000 people entered the country since Hungary fenced off its border with Serbia earlier this week.
Many have been taken by bus to reception centres but some say they plan to walk to neighbouring Slovenia.
Huge numbers of people heading north from the Mediterranean have created a political crisis in the European Union.
Croatian officials said roads leading to the border crossings had also been shut.
The crossing on the main road linking Belgrade and Zagreb - at Bajakovo - appeared to be the only one left open.

Analysis: Guy Delauney, BBC News, Zagreb
Freedom of movement is disappearing in south-east Europe. Slovenia has suspended rail connections with Croatia after around 150 refugees arrived by train. And Croatia has now joined Hungary in closing most of its road borders with Serbia.
The authorities in Zagreb say they had no choice. More than 11,000 refugees have entered the country since Wednesday - the day after Hungary criminalised unofficial border crossings.
Croatia has attempted to take the newcomers to asylum centres - but the overwhelming numbers mean that many people have been left on the streets.
Some have told the BBC they plan to walk north to neighbouring Slovenia which is in the EU's border-free Schengen Area.
Grey line
On Thursday, Croatian Interior Minister Ranko Ostojic said his country was "absolutely full".
He said his message to the migrants was: "Don't come here any more. Stay in refugee centres in Serbia and Macedonia and Greece. This is not the road to Europe. Buses can't take you there. It's a lie."
But a Reuters journalist at the scene reported that migrants were walking through fields to bypass one of the border crossings.

The new Lin Dem leader Tim Farron (another idiot ) yesterday saying we should open the door at Calais and let them in from the camps there , are these people completely mad ?

NO.

Some realise they have a responsibility to the human race, not just themselves!