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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

mentor - 31 Jan 2017 13:16 - 6311 of 12628

Balerboy

It seems you did not realised this is a Referendum thread

cynic - 31 Jan 2017 13:52 - 6312 of 12628

leave him alone or have you run out of other targets to bully and abuse?

mentor - 31 Jan 2017 16:09 - 6313 of 12628

The B@stard,( Back stabber and meddler ) is about
it seems a nerve has been touch

note: you better read again my post, nothing wrong with it ( and with politeness ) but your badness see it red when is blue

mentor - 31 Jan 2017 16:12 - 6314 of 12628

Brexit LIVE: MPs debate Article 50 trigger bill

Two days are set aside for a debate on the second reading of a bill to approve the triggering of Article 50.

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MaxK - 31 Jan 2017 17:06 - 6315 of 12628

Balerboy - 31 Jan 2017 17:56 - 6316 of 12628

Lol. Just incase you didn't know..... 🙄

hangon - 31 Jan 2017 18:13 - 6317 of 12628

Thanks for the pic, fellers....what a lot of suits.
I thought Art 50 would be a rubber-stamp with our MP fretting ( Steaming) that their Voters were mindless ( Er, but they DID vote each of these fellows IN , ),
Then we'd get "Approval" by HoL as they don't want to be cut-off entirely.

Yet it seems the Commons wants a re-run of their Election! - disposing of the several No-Hopers and the like. ( Wants being what they'll get, soon enough ). Bah Humbug !

All this MP delay ="Spoiling" it just G'tees that UK plc will be given a rough-deal by EU Negotiators, as they view our tied-hands in the mirror behind the Bar ( as IN Gambling Houses, I suggest ).

Perhaps we need a clean-sweep of all their Houses.... and get folk in that know how many Beans make Five...

Did someone....Mention ?
President Trump . . . It's a great shame that his Political strategy effectively lost Mrs May the Cheers that her meeting should have provided, on Return to UK... by showing the EU we are free!
Seems his "Travel Ban" was almost the same as Obama's - yet then, no-one Noticed. Of course it isn't exactly a "Ban" - but it has been started badly, so it amounts to the same..... Oh Dear.

Haystack - 31 Jan 2017 18:19 - 6318 of 12628

If A50 goes through the March 9 looks like being the trigger date.

MaxK - 31 Jan 2017 21:05 - 6319 of 12628

If A50 doesent go through... general election and Armageddon for the remainers.

Haystack - 31 Jan 2017 23:43 - 6320 of 12628

Result for Labour like 1931. Look at the figures.

Dil - 01 Feb 2017 07:54 - 6321 of 12628

Why March 9th Haystack ?

grannyboy - 01 Feb 2017 08:07 - 6322 of 12628

The 9th March is when the Lords should've have waved it through.
then May can trigger article50 which should be near the end of March
as per timetable....

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2017 09:25 - 6323 of 12628

Hays,

Look at what happened shortly after 1931.

VICTIM - 01 Feb 2017 09:28 - 6324 of 12628

1932 .

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2017 09:54 - 6325 of 12628

Poor old Fred he seems to find a handle on anything to do with misery .

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2017 11:12 - 6326 of 12628

The elephant has been let out again.

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2017 11:17 - 6327 of 12628

Happy these ones .


mentor - 01 Feb 2017 11:18 - 6328 of 12628

Speculating once again, How we can get a better deal..............

New trade agreement with EU will have to go further to provide for services, says NIESR

(ShareCast News) - When negotiating a new free trade agreement with the European Union, Britain will have to go further than any other deal that is currently in existence to provide for its services industry, the National institute of Economic and Social Research said.

NIESR also revised up its forecast for UK growth in 2017 by 0.3 percentage point to 1.7% and expects it to improve to 1.9% in 2018. But this marks a slowdown from the 2% reading in 2016. The think thank warned that rising inflation would affect consumer spending.

The world economy is predicted to grow faster in the next couple of years, from 3% in 2016 to 3.1% in 2017 and 3.5% in 2018.

The think tank said that the current European Union trade agreement is more comprehensive and goes further than most free trade deals as it covers non-tariff barriers, which encompass regulations for services, mutual recognition of intellectual property and passporting rights.

The financial services industry has been concerned with passporting rights which allows them to conduct business across the EU through a single license, especially since the Prime Minister Theresa May said that Britain will no longer be a member of the European single market and customs union.

NIESR estimated that once Britain leaves the single market and if it adopts World Trade Organisation rules for a deal with the EU there will be a 59% reduction in UK trade with the bloc, consisting of a 58% reduction in goods and 61% in services.

If the UK negotiates a new free trade agreement with the EU, the NIESR expects a 45% reduction in UK trade consisting of 35% decline in goods, a 61% fall in services.

When compared to Britain gaining free trade agreements with leading emerging economies such as the BRIICS (Brazil, Russia, India, Indonesia, China and South Africa), there will be a 19% gain in trade, consisting of 26% in goods, but none in services. This is similar to a free trade agreement with Anglophone countries - the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - with a 12% gain, consisting of 26% in goods and none in services.

For total UK trade, NIESR predicted that leaving the European single market could lead to a long-term reduction between 22-30%, while the increased trade from new trade deals with all the BRIICS nations and Anglophone countries will come to just 2.6% and 2.2%, respectively.

Fred1new - 01 Feb 2017 11:54 - 6329 of 12628

Dumbo,

A natural place for you to be.

jimmy b - 01 Feb 2017 12:00 - 6330 of 12628

I'd love to be with those elephants ,lot better than listening to a misery guts.
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