Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred is Welsh cynic, don't hold your breath LOL!!

McCarthy was born in Luton,[2] where she attended Denbigh High School, followed by Luton Sixth Form College. McCarthy studied at the University of Liverpool reading Russian Studies, before studying law at City of London Polytechnic. McCarthy began a doctorate on Labour links with the City of London at Goldsmith's College, but did not complete it.[3] She was a councillor in Luton and for a short period of time volunteered in the Legal Department of the Labour Party. She was also a member of Labour's National Policy Forum and is a qualified solicitor.

n May 2009 McCarthy repaid £402 for a second bed claimed in expenses for her one bedroom flat. She stated the claim had been made in error.[14][15]

In October 2010 McCarthy admitted a charge of electoral fraud, accepting a police caution for revealing on Twitter the number of postal votes cast per party in her constituency at the 2010 election, and apologised for this action.[8][16][17][18][19]

In May 2012 McCarthy branded a fellow train passenger a "lager drinking oaf" and suggested he should "have been killed before he could breed" in comments made to over 13,000 followers on Twitter.

it would be like Cameron licking his own balls before he puts them in a Pig's Mouth.

The pig wasn't Porky Osborne.

Probably would enjoy it.

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JC. umm wait and see.

Remember Attlee looked like Lenin's brother, but the tory dropout Churchill was dumped by the country.

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Interesting to watch.

But Cameron is managing the "economy" well for ?????.

Manuel, soon you will probably back with the slops in the kitchen!

8-)

Ps.

What was the name of your cafe, the "Dirty Spoon"?

OOPS looks like you touched a nerve there cyners LOL!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-click-fraud/

Well done Osborne:

Jeremy Hunt arrives on the ward!

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/09/25/measuring-gap-between-corbyns-supporters-and-labou/

Jeremy Corbyn's supporters and the general public are divided by a gulf that is unprecedented in modern British politics

Successful party leaders marry the enthusiasms of their supporters to the mood of the wider electorate. By this test, Jeremy Corbyn looks destined to fail. New YouGov research for the New Statesman reveals that those who voted for Jeremy Corbyn overwhelmingly describe themselves as left-wing. They reject capitalism, and admire Tony Benn more than Tony Blair. Two-thirds of them want to abolish private schools and the monarchy, and favour higher taxes to pay for greater welfare.

Labour’s target voters think none of these things. Nor do many current Labour supporters. The table gives the main findings. The first column sets out the views of those who voted for Corbyn to be party leader. The final three columns are taken from a separate survey of more than 10,000 electors. Just over a quarter would currently vote Labour; a further 20 per cent would consider doing so. To win in 2020, Labour must retain the support of almost all its current supporters and at least half its potential voters.



Our figures show how hard this will be. While 81 per cent of the people who voted for Corbyn say they are “very” or “fairly” left-wing, a mere 15 per cent of potential Labour voters, and just 25 per cent of “weak” Labour supporters do so. (“Firm” supporters are those who identify fairly or strongly with the party, while “weak” supporters would currently vote Labour but don’t identify strongly with it.)

This gulf matters – as the Conservatives know only too well. Their party was unelectable when they were led by William Hague, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard. True, they were up against Tony Blair, New Labour and a steadily growing economy. But, in addition, most voters saw the three Tory leaders as too right-wing – and their political outlook was nothing like as far removed from the public mood as Corbyn’s.

So: should Corbyn tack to the centre and compromise on his long-held views? He has already performed U-turns on a number of issues, such as Europe. He accepts that abolishing the monarchy will have to wait.

However, if he abandons the beliefs he has embraced for more than thirty years, he faces a double risk. On the one hand, the people he needs to attract may reject him as a cynical leader, hiding his true feelings to win votes; on the other hand, those who voted for him may accuse him of betraying the very principles that he proclaimed so clearly in his leadership campaign.

Corbyn’s other option, of course, is to hold firm to his views, make the case for red-blooded socialism, and persuade millions of voters to back his crusade. If he truly believes in it, he should do so – and set out to prove me wrong.

This board is very quiet.

Are all the barmy army at the UKIP party, or looking for a pork butcher?

Corbyn is too set in his ways to change. He is also accustomed to the easy life of protest. He is very good at repeating the verse he has been practicing all his life but is too lazy and dim witted to be the leader of the opposition. That is why he decided to read out emails from the public at PMQs rather than defend his own questions. Terry Wogan would have done a better job...

Ps,

JB,
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I didn't know Liz and Pip were KGB sleepers?

You could make your fortune writing Le Carre novels!

i not sure why i should have tweaked one of fred's nerves

much more importantly
i am completely bewildered as to why junior doctors' salaries should (effectively) be cut by 30% when nhs is not already short of same but many are emigrating elsewhere (like oz) where conditions are said to be better

i not sure why i should have tweaked one of fred's nerves

much more importantly
i am completely bewildered as to why junior doctors' salaries should (effectively) be cut by 30% when nhs is not already short of same but many are emigrating elsewhere (like oz) where conditions are said to be better

I don't think their salaries have been cut by 30%. The new contract is different regarding hours etc. Their basic is being raised quite a bit and it will include more hours. Some will get more overall, some will get less and some stay where they are. The new system should leave them the same on average. The fuss over it is coming from the doctors' union. They are very resistant to change.

Manuel,

it is the different pay rates for hours.

At a weekend, a said "junior" officer can earn much as he does in a normal week, without ongoing responsibility.

Also, some will be doing locum jobs and pay rates are higher, even "negotiable".

But the main problem is an incompetent management starting at government level who don't understand the NHS, and have destroyed moral and the ethos. The failure of "market place" ideology.

If your daughter-in-law speaks to you, aske her!

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For a period when a student doing when working for Unilever and the plant was closed, I used to work a 36hour shift at weekends.

Weekend Rates, double and triple rates.

Good to have a "needed" skill, but knackering!

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Maggie Thatcher introduced the Market Place to medicine and Universities against advice and eventually "pissed off" the professionals who then applied little business man's economic principles.

Hence one of the major problems in NHS and Unniversities.

d-in-l thinks it's totally nuts
primarily to do with "antisocial hours" pay being scrapped as far as i understand

i'ld guess that when my now-consultant chap was qualifying, they also did not get paid "antisocial hours" but haven't seen him to ask, but times change etc etc, in this as in other things (please note fred!)

d-in-l delighted she just has a final set of exams to do in november and then she's fully-fully qualified so unaffected

Criminal proceedings have been started in Switzerland against Sepp Blatter.