goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
jimmy b
- 02 Oct 2015 18:02
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cynic bashful ?
Fred1new
- 02 Oct 2015 18:41
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Tongue in cheek is better than snivelling!
Chris Carson
- 02 Oct 2015 19:03
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If Fred was one of these, there would have to be a draw by volunteers in the rush to bury him :0)
Dozens of bodies to go unburied because of gravedigger shortage
The Labour-run Newcastle Under Lyme Borough Council told grieving relatives that no one can be buried in any of their eight cemeteries for three weeks, blaming funding cuts
By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent4:42PM BST 02 Oct 2015 Comments6 Comments
Dozens of bodies will not be buried by a council in Staffordshire this month because of a shortage of grave diggers.
The Labour-run Newcastle Under Lyme Borough Council has told grieving relatives that no one can be buried in any of their eight cemeteries for three weeks, blaming funding cuts.
The news has echoes of the Winter of Discontent in the late 1970s when bodies went unburied because of strike action by council workers.
The Labour-run council blamed the decision on huge delays due to “staff shortages”. It said that it has to make £2.1million worth of cuts in 2016.
The council said that apart from on two days - October 5 and 12 - no-one can be buried at its eight cemeteries in Kidsgrove, Audley, Chesterton, Keele, Knutton, Madeley, Newcastle and Silverdale.
Typically the cemeteries bury 10 bodies a week which means that as many as 30 bodies might not be buried during the three week period.
Local funeral directors have been asked to store the bodies while they await burial.
Tim McGough, president of the Stoke-on-Trent and District Funeral Directors Association, said: “This is going to put a strain on families and on funeral directors too.
“It's terribly sad that this situation has arisen. It has never happened in Newcastle before and let's hope it won't happen again.
“It will certainly cause a backlog and there will be a delay in funerals because once the service resumes again all of the slots will be booked up quickly.”
He added: “We have to play catch-up at Easter and Christmas and they are only four-day closures, so this will put people under a lot of pressure.
“I am sure funeral directors will take care of people as best they can during this time.
“But our main aim is to make sure families can say goodbye as soon as they possibly can.”
Residents branded the delays as 'ridiculous'.
Grandfather-of-four Peter Cotton, 78, of Knutton, said: "There is surely always a demand for funerals and they should have had the staff in place.
"It is ridiculous that this has happened and will cause undue upset to people waiting to bury a loved-one."
Mechanic and father-of-two Gary Harper, 48, said: "I just hope none of my relatives drops dead in the next few weeks then. This is a complete farce."
Mature student Ian Cannings, 30, said: "I'm sure the council, are trying their best in difficult circumstance but they must have seen this coming.
"Surely there must be some council staff who can step in to keep it all going?
"How complex a skill is it to bury a body? It makes Britain look like a third-world country doesn't it."
A TaxPayers' Alliance spokesman branded the situation a “disgrace” and an “insult” to grief-stricken families - adding: “It should never have been allowed to happen.”
Newcastle Borough Council said it has brought in the restrictions as it re-shuffles its funeral services - to try to cope with the staffing issues.
Ann Beech, cabinet member for cemeteries and crematorium, said: “We have some short-term staffing issues which mean we have had to put temporary measures in place.
“But I would stress this is only for a limited period of time and our normal service will be resumed shortly.
“We apologise for any convenience this situation has caused.”
During the Winter of Discontent, Liverpool City Council was forced to rent a factory in Speke to store corpses until they could be buried.
The Department of Environment noted at the time that there were 150 bodies stored at the factory at one point, with 25 more added every day.
cynic
- 02 Oct 2015 20:05
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fred as a gravedigger or a corpse?
do we have a choice?
Chris Carson
- 02 Oct 2015 20:35
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He's been digging graves for years has earned a rest!
Haystack
- 03 Oct 2015 11:17
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Now Jeremy Corbyn economic adviser wants to raise £100billion by taxing the spending from your bank account
Richard Murphy, who is credited as the creator of 'Corbynomics', said the Chancellor George Osborne should start to tax people’s money as they spend it from their bank accounts
Britons should be levied with a new £100billion "tax on consumption" paid directly from their bank accounts, according to Jeremy Corbyn's tax adviser.
Richard Murphy, who drafted some of Mr Corbyn's economic policies during the Labour leadership campaign, said people's money should be taxed as they spend it.
The controversial measure is set out in Mr Murphy’s new book, called The Joy of Tax, which is published this week.
Mr Murphy says in the book that the new consumption tax could raise over £100billion a year and replace National Insurance Contributions, which disproportionately hits poorer people.
It says: “I think that a progressive tax on the total sum paid into and out of people’s and companies’ bank accounts is now essential.
“This simply requires that the rate charged increase as the total payments into and out of bank accounts connected to a person increase.
“This is the tax that can, in the 21st century, end the absurd need to tax labour and its wealth creation and instead shift that tax to excessive consumption, a shift we know is now needeeasing
He explains in the book: “It is entirely possible to tax all transactions through bank accounts that a person or company operates.”
Mr Murphy's book "The Joy of Tax" also includes his draft of a possible Budget speech in which he brands the consumption tax as the Carbon Usage Tax.
Speaking to The Telegraph, Mr Murphy said he would put the idea to Mr Corbyn, the Labour leader. He said this was "the next thing" after Mr Cobyn adopted his idea for people’s quantitive easing
MaxK
- 03 Oct 2015 11:34
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I wonder what Mr Murphy thinks VAT, Income tax, NI, stamp duty etc is?
Also, by taking a £100billion out of private hands, and handing it to the chaps, it will improve the economy??
Chris Carson
- 03 Oct 2015 11:40
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Typical loony left. If they had their way they would tax the air we breathe and still fcuk up the economy.
required field
- 03 Oct 2015 17:02
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The Americans are round the bend with allowing (mental cases/muppets) with guns....and they've bombed a hospital in Afganistan....really bonkers....Barack Obama has a tough job....can't they ban weapons in the United States (except for hunter rifles of course) ?...
cynic
- 03 Oct 2015 17:20
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i think the constitution enshrines the right to carry guns
of course it's got totally ridiculous, but the gun lobby is very strong and there's a lot of votes to be lost if sensible legislation could ever be put through
it's unbelievable how many americans still think the way to stop this sort of thing is for ever more guns to be carried, even into schools
Haystack
- 03 Oct 2015 18:20
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The US attitude, including survivors of yesterday's shooting, is that if more people were allowed to carry concealed weapons then they could stop these shootings quickly.
cynic
- 03 Oct 2015 18:33
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i am aware of the (il)logic
at least obama doesn't agree, but given the way us politics work, there isn't a hope in hell of getting any sort of limitation bill through
i wonder when or if the us public will ever say enough is enough, for there's not much sign of it today
MaxK
- 03 Oct 2015 18:38
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And, as a practical matter, they cant get rid of the guns anyway. (300million + that they know about)
Even is they were to get legislation through, the only people giving up their weapons would be the licenced law abiding citizens.
The cranks, loons and criminals would laugh all the way to the illegal gun supply shop.
Prohibition cannot work if every man and his dog already holds the damn things.
jimmy b
- 03 Oct 2015 19:36
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No one running for President will say they are going to change the gun law as they know they would never get elected .
Fred1new
- 03 Oct 2015 21:57
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Manuel.
Who was advocating "bombing" in Syria?
Forgot it is a different situation!
MaxK
- 04 Oct 2015 00:37
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Mrs Murkel is doing what the red army couldn't do, she is destroying Germany.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34422558
Those stasi types never give up eh?
Fred1new
- 04 Oct 2015 09:57
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Max,
Just looking at Cameron on Andrew Marr Show and considered England has Cameron and Russia has Putin.
Wonder what the going rates were.
Both pillars of honesty befitting their party camp followers.
Umumum.
Watched him dodging the Pig controversy and tax dodging friends.
Been told that there are "photos".
Fred1new
- 04 Oct 2015 10:15
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Why do I think of the Cameron and the tory party donors when I hear this :
An English tory councillor was recently accused of providing council jobs for no fewer than eighty-three of his relatives.
He hotly denied this and pointed out that only eighty-two of his kinsmen were employed by the council.
His relatives have now moved a motion of censure against him for his carelessness in missing one of them out.