Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

state subsidy for redcar steel
it's certainly a very harsh world but, despite the bailout of the banks for reasons far more complex, "we" grew out of subsidising failing companies many years ago
if there was a decision to bail out redcar - prob "illegal" anyway - where does one draw the line?

fisfinger is apparently living in a caravan park. He claims on a post on the other side and under a new username that it is his latest investment. I think he has made the transition to 'trailer trash'.

So much for Corbyn being a pacifist! Another U turn.

This is because up to 50 Labour MPs would vote with the government to support military action in Syria.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/corbyn-signals-labour-could-support-military-action-in-syria-without-un-support

Corbyn signals Labour could back military action in Syria without UN support

Hilary Benn sets out in Guardian article party’s more flexible approach if Russia were to block security council resolution

eremy Corbyn has signalled for the first time that Labour could support forms of military action in Syria without UN support if Russia blocks a security council resolution.

Taking a more flexible approach to UK military involvement in the Syrian civil war, the new statement urges David Cameron to try again to win support for a new UN resolution allowing military action, and affirms that the party supports the creation of safe zones within Syria to protect Syrians who have had to flee their homes.

In an article in the Guardian on Monday, Diane Abbott, the shadow international development secretary, rejected the idea of safe havens when proposed by Jo Cox, one of the backbenchers trying to assemble a broader Labour policy on Syria that does not just wait to react to government proposals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/corbyn-can-no-longer-ignore-the-spectre-of-his-imminent-demise-a6692766.html

Another U-turn by Cameron

The government just won the vote on the budget surplus by 62. It looks like some Labour MPs defied Corbyn and either abstained or voted with the government.

It was 21 Labour MPs that abstained against Corbyn's wishes.

LOL!!! What a circus.

To make iit worse, it was a three line whip.

Does that mean de-selection?

Don't you mean to make it better? Cornyn is finding out that what goes around, comes around.

Don't you mean to make it better? Cornyn is finding out that what goes around, comes around.

So what's happened to the 'Help thread' then?

In a few years time, I would think Labour will be happy to have voted the way they did last night.

Putting a pin in a getting a slow leak!

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Another 37 Labour MPs didn't turn up to vote. 16 of them were on official business and the other 21 just stayed away. Corbyn originally threatened them with the sack and then backed down when they wouldn't give in.

Sounds a little like the likely vote by the con artists, when they come to vote on staying in the EU or not!

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But, I think every vote in government by an MP should be that of a vote "conscience" and not that a vote according to the hierarchy of a party, media, or donors to the party.

The vote should be based on the validity of facts and argument!

CORBYN
if the newspaper headline i saw this morning is correct - JC to upbraid the chinese president or whoever at a state banquet over china's lack of human rights, shows me that he has no idea (a) about decorum = time and place for everything and (b) having a proper sense of priorities

it's fine being a loose cannon as a backbencher, but absolutely not if you are to be taken seriously as a potential prime minister either by those at home or on the wider world stage

Yes,

I think he ought to learn to kowtow to his superiors!

That would improve the opinion of England throughout the world and that it can't be pushed around.