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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 13 Oct 2015 18:54 - 63831 of 81564

fisfinger is apparently living in a caravan park. He claims on a post on the other side and under a new username that it is his latest investment. I think he has made the transition to 'trailer trash'.

Haystack - 14 Oct 2015 00:19 - 63832 of 81564

So much for Corbyn being a pacifist! Another U turn.

This is because up to 50 Labour MPs would vote with the government to support military action in Syria.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/corbyn-signals-labour-could-support-military-action-in-syria-without-un-support

Corbyn signals Labour could back military action in Syria without UN support

Hilary Benn sets out in Guardian article party’s more flexible approach if Russia were to block security council resolution

eremy Corbyn has signalled for the first time that Labour could support forms of military action in Syria without UN support if Russia blocks a security council resolution.

Taking a more flexible approach to UK military involvement in the Syrian civil war, the new statement urges David Cameron to try again to win support for a new UN resolution allowing military action, and affirms that the party supports the creation of safe zones within Syria to protect Syrians who have had to flee their homes.

In an article in the Guardian on Monday, Diane Abbott, the shadow international development secretary, rejected the idea of safe havens when proposed by Jo Cox, one of the backbenchers trying to assemble a broader Labour policy on Syria that does not just wait to react to government proposals.

Fred1new - 14 Oct 2015 09:02 - 63834 of 81564

Another U-turn by Cameron

Haystack - 14 Oct 2015 21:02 - 63835 of 81564

The government just won the vote on the budget surplus by 62. It looks like some Labour MPs defied Corbyn and either abstained or voted with the government.

Haystack - 14 Oct 2015 21:11 - 63836 of 81564

It was 21 Labour MPs that abstained against Corbyn's wishes.

Chris Carson - 14 Oct 2015 22:14 - 63837 of 81564

LOL!!! What a circus.

Haystack - 15 Oct 2015 00:24 - 63838 of 81564

To make iit worse, it was a three line whip.

MaxK - 15 Oct 2015 08:17 - 63839 of 81564

Does that mean de-selection?

iturama - 15 Oct 2015 08:19 - 63840 of 81564

Don't you mean to make it better? Cornyn is finding out that what goes around, comes around.

iturama - 15 Oct 2015 08:19 - 63841 of 81564

Don't you mean to make it better? Cornyn is finding out that what goes around, comes around.

cowshapedfish - 15 Oct 2015 08:34 - 63842 of 81564

So what's happened to the 'Help thread' then?

Fred1new - 15 Oct 2015 08:44 - 63843 of 81564

In a few years time, I would think Labour will be happy to have voted the way they did last night.

Fred1new - 15 Oct 2015 09:30 - 63844 of 81564

Putting a pin in a getting a slow leak!


aldwickk - 15 Oct 2015 10:29 - 63845 of 81564

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Haystack - 15 Oct 2015 11:20 - 63846 of 81564

Another 37 Labour MPs didn't turn up to vote. 16 of them were on official business and the other 21 just stayed away. Corbyn originally threatened them with the sack and then backed down when they wouldn't give in.

Fred1new - 15 Oct 2015 12:08 - 63847 of 81564

Sounds a little like the likely vote by the con artists, when they come to vote on staying in the EU or not!

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But, I think every vote in government by an MP should be that of a vote "conscience" and not that a vote according to the hierarchy of a party, media, or donors to the party.

The vote should be based on the validity of facts and argument!

cynic - 15 Oct 2015 13:04 - 63848 of 81564

CORBYN
if the newspaper headline i saw this morning is correct - JC to upbraid the chinese president or whoever at a state banquet over china's lack of human rights, shows me that he has no idea (a) about decorum = time and place for everything and (b) having a proper sense of priorities

it's fine being a loose cannon as a backbencher, but absolutely not if you are to be taken seriously as a potential prime minister either by those at home or on the wider world stage

Fred1new - 15 Oct 2015 13:12 - 63849 of 81564

Yes,

I think he ought to learn to kowtow to his superiors!

That would improve the opinion of England throughout the world and that it can't be pushed around.

Haystack - 15 Oct 2015 14:14 - 63850 of 81564

cynic

The story is that Corbyn is using the threat of trouble at the banquet as a lever to have a private meeting with the Chinese premier. That sort of a meeting would not be usual in a state visit.

I think the fallout from Corbyn attacking the Chinese at a state banquet would be massive. The Foreign Office, the Diplomatic Corps and senior civil servants would be after blood. It wouldn't go down well with the public as it would show the hospitality of the UK in a bad light as well as being an insult to the Queen. On balance I would like Corbyn to do it as he would be toast.
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