diamonds
- 19 Jan 2007 16:58
from w-w-bb:
19.01.2007 - Total Rocketscience
The third and final company making up our Risk / Reward trilogy on shares for 2007 has so many investment negatives that most observers might not even give it more than a cursory glance. Although quoted on the London AIM market, it is based on the other side of the World, has reported revenues and cash flow of diddly squat and, more importantly, operates in an area of expertise so deep in boffinland that you need to be at least a 5 star techie to venture anywhere near it.
What originally persuaded us to give it a second look was the fact that legendary Stockmarket investor, Jim Slater, was pouring money into it via several successive rounds of financing. As we all know, Mr. Slater is a qualified accountant and hugely experienced corporate financier but clearly he is more at home in leafy Surrey than in the technologically rarified atmosphere of Southern California. However, he must have gleaned enough about what the company actually did to get extremely excited about it. In fact, by last Autumn, he had grown to like it so much that, to paraphrase the immortal Victor Kiam, he bought the remaining 51 % of the company that his vehicle, Original Investments, didn't already own.
The company in question was VIALOGY and, ever since it was fully reversed into Original just before Christmas, Slater's loyal band of followers have seen their highly speculative penny punt move on to the calculated risk category and been duly rewarded with a 50% shareprice improvement. We first latched on to this situation last April when we wrote a piece entitled The Cisco Kid ( see news archive ). To recap briefly, the company was set up by some brainboxes who had earlier worked together on supercomputing projects for NASA. Led by Dr. Sandip Gulati, the team appeared to have perfected software to detect and enhance extremely weak signals previously obscured by background noise. This may not seem particularly earthshattering to the layman but, apparently, the applications for this technology are not only revolutionary but almost limitless which suggests that an exponential rise in licensing income could well lie ahead.
Big news clearly travels fast on the Eastern seaboard because global behemoths Cisco and Boeing have already enlisted Vialogy to work on 2 major government inspired projects and these are just the ones that the company have been allowed to talk about publicly. As we reported in April, Cisco has contracted Vialogy to help with its IPICS programme which seeks to make sure that all emergency services and government agencies can communicate with each other quickly via computers and phones. The need to address this obvious requirement was highlighted by 9 / 11 when communications between different departments with different systems proved chaotic.
For its part, Boeing has recently confirmed that Vialogy has delivered a tenfold improvement in the accuracy and efficiency of the types of gyroscopes it uses in spacecraft and missile navigational systems. It is also known that both Cisco and Boeing see a major role for the technology in such areas as border controls and missile defence systems. Elsewhere a much smaller Texan company, Evolution Petroleum, is applying the technology to improving seismic evaluation of oil and gas deposits.
This initial clutch of applications is almost certainly just the tip of a very large iceberg that is going to float into view over the next few years and all that is required is a little patience. At todays price of 5.5p, Vialogy is valued at a mere 22m. To justify this valuation, the company would have to be earning say 2 million pretax. With cash reserves of 3 million and its heavyweight partners funding the projects it is involved in, Vialogy should be able to get through to breakeven without further recourse to shareholders. We would expect this stage to be reached sometime over the next 12 months. Thereafter, profits could / should escalate very dramatically as new applications and licensing income start to snowball.
On a two year view, shareholders could be rewarded extremely handsomely indeed. Vialogy is in so many ways akin to last weeks selection, CORAC. Both are now moving from the development stage to commercialization with the scales tipping away from blue sky risk towards the reality of cash flow. Both have mindblowing upside potential yet both have current shareprice action that makes drying paint look positively orgasmic. Although this presents an opportunity for latecomers, it is a frustrating byproduct of both companies involvement with highly sensitive technology and powerful, publicity shy partners. Moreover, the present lack of any meaningful numbers together with the sheer scale of future potential makes any serious stockbroker research well nigh impossible. All this will resolve itself in due course but, as they say in the Grolsch advert, all good things come to those who wait.
pumben
- 08 Jan 2008 13:46
- 639 of 1209
Maybe of some interest.
http://www.worldwidebb.com/news.php?id=latestnews&cast=392
notlob
- 08 Jan 2008 15:55
- 640 of 1209
good strength here, volume not too bad as well
looks set to go a lot higher, imo.
halifax
- 08 Jan 2008 16:07
- 641 of 1209
Why ...no news?
notlob
- 09 Jan 2008 16:25
- 642 of 1209
moving againt the market trend, very positive, imo.
cynic
- 09 Jan 2008 18:51
- 643 of 1209
what? ... not following trend and momentum patterns are you?..... surely not! .... lol
notlob
- 09 Jan 2008 20:21
- 644 of 1209
not, not in the least, never have been a momentum player, but, if I was, least I wouldn't say something as dopey as momentum has a great deal to do with how shares perform in the short term. So I would button it, if I was you!!!
I can see I will have to speak ever so s l o w l y as clearly you are not the sharpest tool in the box.
It is well recognised that a share that moves strongly against the prevailing trend may well have something going for it , and that is what I am suggesting here with Vialogy.
Surprised you've not taken your 40 profit by now, Cynic, and moved onto your next target.
cynic
- 09 Jan 2008 21:45
- 645 of 1209
life is full of surprises of which you are not one
notlob
- 09 Jan 2008 22:17
- 646 of 1209
life is also full of boring old farts of which you clearly are one!
pumben
- 10 Jan 2008 10:21
- 647 of 1209
Anyone got any clues as to what is driving this at the moment, possible deal imminent ?
BTW, I have a substantial holding in this but at an ave price of 11p, will it get back there and beyond ?
Toya
- 10 Jan 2008 10:28
- 648 of 1209
Pumben: I wrote some notes on the AGM - separate thread so should be able to find it easily. Gives info on various activities in progress, all of which will be driving this. Reckon sp will go up. You'll have to make your own mind up but I would think we should get back to 11p and beyond this year.
pumben
- 10 Jan 2008 10:40
- 649 of 1209
Toya, thanks, yes I read your excellent notes & I agree this co. has excellent potential and is in an area which has a high profile. it was pleasing to see that they are in pricing discussions with a couple of their products. Considering the current market conditions I am surprised at the sudden surge (not complaining though) and was just wondering whether one of the pricing discussions is coming to completion !!
notlob
- 10 Jan 2008 10:44
- 650 of 1209
I think those that went to the AGM were made aware of the intense level of activity within VIY across numerous fronts.
Whilst all that has been made public knowledge, certainly actual attendance and listening to the likes of Bob Dean and Sandeep outline the strategy, initiatives and current negotiations gave an insight that perhaps was not available to others.
I think it would take very little for these to regain their old highs. The sort of markets Vialogy are dealing in means that success in any one area could well be a company maker for Vialogy. Multiply that up by two or three, and the shares could go bananas. To be clear, obviously they will need to release news of contract wins etc for that to happen, but I am confident that that will be the case.
Big things are planned for this year!
fliper
- 10 Jan 2008 14:52
- 651 of 1209
Had to get some more before they go above 10p . Good things to come from viy . Could be the share of 2008 ( cynics joker ! )
cynic
- 10 Jan 2008 15:23
- 652 of 1209
so someone reads my posts then without feeling obliged to insult afterwards - lol!
moneyplus
- 10 Jan 2008 15:51
- 653 of 1209
Aah-never mind cynic. Your caustic wit is bound to ruffle a few feathers!
fliper
- 10 Jan 2008 16:00
- 654 of 1209
Cynic I missed out on your 2008 golfing predictions ? club champion ??? or is this your joker !
cynic
- 10 Jan 2008 16:35
- 655 of 1209
M+ ..... no probs for me pal, though i have clearly got under the scales and woad of the poxy pict
Fliper .... suggested 10 to watch for 2008 on FTSE thread (post 485) .... VIY was added as the joker on the basis that at around 6p there was very little downside, while its rocket science technology, which i do not to understand at all, might just prove its worth
notlob
- 11 Jan 2008 11:56
- 656 of 1209
a few lines in the Telegraph today:
'Vialogy, which makes software to improve the performance of sensors, firmed 0.875 to 8.25p as traders suggested it could be close to bringing on board a major international partner. '
Often newspapers just print any old rubbish to explain a rise, but given the recent strong statement from Vialogy a few weeks ago re detailed pricing negotiations and profitable contracts, then this time the DT just might have it right! imo.
hangon
- 11 Jan 2008 12:51
- 657 of 1209
The DT is reporting what it can find to justify the sp rise....if the Co ann is reasonably-recent then they will base their "reason" on that.
- Without going over to USA ( California?), what else could they base their report on ?. . . I doubt anyone at DT has any professional interest in VIY, its too small and based overseas - therfore difficult for anyone to follow - all Posters here should realise that their excitement is based on Company News Output . . . which also is the likely-source of other Reports.
This is common for many companies and something that we punters should take into account, before parting with our money. I don't hold VIY.
notlob
- 11 Jan 2008 13:00
- 658 of 1209
They don't have to go to the USA at all, as the HQ is in the UK, for finanicial and IR matters. it is the operational side that is based in California.
I have heard that Vialogy have done recent presentations in the City, presumably they have a good story to tell,otherwise they would not be doing them!
Therefore, added all together, I believe there is substance behind this rise and that the rise will continue for some way yet.imo.