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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 12:10 - 63960 of 81564

unlike most of you here, i have made the effort to edit this article into something more concise

China invests £5.2bn in UK projects
Chinese investment group SinoFortone plans to invest more than £5bn in the UK.
It will invest £2bn in Orthios Eco Parks to develop waste power and food stations, initially at Holyhead and Port Talbot in Wales.

The company also said it would invest in developing an amusement park in Ebbsfleet, Kent, reports The BBC.

Development of the amusement park should begin in 2017 and should be completed by 2020, SinoFortone said.

The two power plants in Wales will be developed over the next three years, after which the technology will be rolled out to China and developing countries.

The modular plants take waste heat from power stations that will be used to warm water for king prawn farming. The UK currently imports king prawns.

Other types of seafood, such as Dover Sole, will follow while the process can also be used to help grow vegetables.

The system is also designed to capture carbon dioxide emissions.

The 299 megawatt Holyhead plant in Anglesey will employ at least 500 people, as will the 349 megawatt Port Talbot plant in south Wales, Orthios chief Sean McCormick told the BBC.

Thousands more people will be employed building the plants, he said.

In exchange for the investment, Orthios will source between 50 per cent and 60 per cent of the materials and components needed to build the plants from China.

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OK all you grizzlers ......

while i too have misgivings about the massive inward investment - it happens to be from china at the moment - there are very obvious benefits in job-creation at the simplest level

so would you rather not have the investment and then bitch like crazy about the gov't not doing enough to create jobs?

would you applaud ANY gov't that decided it was a "good idea" to subsidise (waste huge sums of money some would say) the steel industry when there was no obvious long-term foreseeable benefit in so doing?

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 12:21 - 63961 of 81564

No.

Due to a rush to the emplace a rotten ideological economic policies, by this incompetent bunch of neo-cons, it has been 6 years wasted by serial incompetent government actions, which Cameron and Osborne are now looking for an escape route from their own creation

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 12:29 - 63962 of 81564

cut the crap fred and try to write something sensible that is not imbued with your ideological splenetics

and "no" is in relation to what?

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 12:44 - 63963 of 81564

Well you seem to know a lot more about crap than I do.

You swallow enough of it and then regurgitate it.

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 13:02 - 63964 of 81564

oh well done fred! ...... several chapeaux for that brilliant witticism

for once, try commenting without ideological crap and about the present day and not history

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 13:05 - 63965 of 81564

You would understand even if I could take you seriously.

Go back to your barrow.

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 13:16 - 63966 of 81564

Read and consider implications of actions taken by your government:

Doctors, teachers, the police – public servants are demoralised

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/18/doctors-teachers-police-public-servants-demoralised

It is very brief and sums up what is happening as a result of barrow boys' dogma.

Chris Carson - 20 Oct 2015 13:46 - 63967 of 81564

Labour 'hasn't a hope in hell' of winning elections, says resigning peer
Lord Warner, the first Labour parliamentarian to resign from party after election of Jeremy Corbyn, says party must change tack

Stan - 20 Oct 2015 15:50 - 63968 of 81564

About Lord Wally:

On Twitter, former Deputy Prime Minister Lord Prescott said Lord Warner had in the past proposed charging people to use the NHS, adding: "No credibility. No great loss."
And shadow work and pensions secretary Owen Smith suggested the peer had "been leaving us for quite a while".

"He voted with the Tories a couple of years ago, under the last Labour leadership, to privatise parts of the NHS," he told BBC 2's Newsnight. "He is somebody who has advocated charging for the NHS, charging to stay overnight....I'm not sure we will miss him too much."

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 15:53 - 63969 of 81564

inevitable response, but i believe Warner is well-respected in HoL and of course has no need to kowtow to JC and his appointed (and annointed?) flagellants

Stan - 20 Oct 2015 16:00 - 63970 of 81564

Not inevitable at all fish face.. but the truth, and respected by who exactly in your humble?

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 16:23 - 63971 of 81564

HoL itself - no that's no answer ...... can't remember i must confess ..... there is much to be said for an unelected chamber as they cannot be bulldozed as easily

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 16:35 - 63972 of 81564

aha!
it was from today's guardian, which is scarcely a poodle to the conservatives .....

The Corbyn team may dismiss Warner's resignation, but they will be wary of saying anything that alienates other Labour peers, partly because Warner is widely respected as an assiduous peer and expert on health care reform. Few Labour peers have any sympathy for Corbyn and unlike Labour MPs are not subject to his patronage.

Stan - 20 Oct 2015 17:02 - 63973 of 81564

..As an aside, what's a right winger like you doing reading the Guardian may I ask?

cynic - 20 Oct 2015 17:19 - 63974 of 81564

it arrives in my e-mail every morning, though unsure how come
actually, it's very good and has many interesting and decently balanced articles

Chris Carson - 20 Oct 2015 17:20 - 63975 of 81564

On a dull dreary day reading the Guardian cheers me up no end Stan, a laugh a minute from page 1. :0)

Stan - 20 Oct 2015 17:27 - 63976 of 81564

You have much to learn CC.. much to learn -):

Stan - 20 Oct 2015 17:32 - 63977 of 81564

Now Alf getting back to Lord whats'is face, who on earth cares what he thinks or says.. only "Con" Artist supporters apparently.

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 17:48 - 63978 of 81564

I think Corbyn can sit back and wait for the tories and neo-cons to implode.

I think he has no need to hurry, he has got four and half years to total up the torrid mistakes being made by this government.

He had four and a half year to formulate economic policies for 6, 10 and 15years ahead to address "modern" economic problems.

He has four and a half years for the Labour party and younger members to mature and accept the probable realities of governing and also the speed at which changes can occur.

A process of evolution not revolution and sensible discussion as to what the people Labour represent wish for and also the needs of the country as a whole and what is feasible.

But, that may mean dumping of disappointed previous so-called leadership who consider themselves as being moderate by swinging to the right-wing of politics and accepting its dogma.

But, my guess work is that in about two and a half years time, Labour will do a deal with the SNP and Lib/Dems and one or two smaller groups (Not UKIP) in order to rid the UK of the torrid party.

Failing this or in spite of this Scotland will have greater or complete independence.

Perhaps, they may wreak retribution after the election.

Personally, would prefer them to be more moderate.

Interesting times.


But Corbyn has all the time he needs and will not be pushed by the media or by tory mendacity.

Fred1new - 20 Oct 2015 17:51 - 63979 of 81564

Stan,


The Alf Garnet of Moneyam doesn't read the Guardian.

He has somebody to read and explain it to him.

Mind he is trying to keep up with social changes.


8-)

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