Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

BMG asked voting intention in the European refrendum, with headline figures of
Remain 52%, Leave 48%.

ICM also released their regular EU referedum tracker earlier in the week, which had toplines of
Remain 54%, Leave 46%

I'm swayed more by 'Tanker's 'I'm going down the club' voter mates, myself.

I'm for OUT!

Importantly, I don't like un-elected representatives creating and enforcing the rules of membership. Particularly, when some of those rules are so ridiculous and damaging to our country.

I can see why Nigel Farage and his party didn't get many MPs elected in the last General Election because the main thing on the agenda was to keep Labour out. But Farage does talk a ton of sense.

Exec,

the problem with your stance, is that the "political elite" "responsible" for "governing" are not of independent minds, but bought by the media and "donors of various persuasions".

Very bad fog in London, can hardly see the bottom of the garden.

Stop drinking or get a smaller garden!

... Can't see your garden? Just as well I would have thought.

The good old days

https://youtu.be/jINZBOxdja8

Christmas count down.

Spot on Fred!

Re: #64255


But it goes for all the main three parties. (Not sure what to make of the fishwife)

Just for H/S.. Been lovely weather in Wales -):

A new record temp for UK in November.

Australia's honours system:

a. Australia began awarding its own honours in 1975 - the awards eventually replaced the existing British honours system.

b. Anyone can nominate an Australian citizen for an award for service, excellence or achievement.

c. The awarding of knighthoods and damehoods was discontinued in 1976 but brought back very briefly in 1986 - Tony Abbott reinstated them in 2014.

d. Republicans had said the honours system was an outdated remnant of colonialism.

.. Make your minds up -):

it may be "outdated", but it is also public recognition to all sorts of people for services they have provided .... certainly the recipients, with just the odd dissenter, are much appreciative

for sure there are also "oddball" nominations, but those can also be discounted

i'm all for keeping the system - it harms no one

Manuel.

Are you hoping for recognition?

Or down on your heels and just out of luck?

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Meanwhile, get ready for the next U-Turn.

Straight talking toff tells it how it is.....




Labour is turning into a sect, says Tristram Hunt


Former shadow minister tells Cambridge University students party is ‘in the shit’ and they are ‘the top 1%’ who must take charge


Frances Perraudin

Monday 2 November 2015 08.37 GMT

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/02/labour-is-in-the-shit-tristram-hunt





The Labour party is “in the shit” and risks turning into a sect, the former shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt has reportedly told students at Cambridge University.

Speaking to Cambridge University’s Labour club in an event entitled Principles, Politics and Pathway to Power, Hunt said: “My fear is algorithmic politics [where because] everyone shares the same views as you on social media and in your social circles you become a sect rather than a party.”

According to the Cambridge University student newspaper Varsity, Hunt told students: “You are the top 1%. The Labour party is in the shit. It is your job and your responsibility to take leadership going forward.”

Hunt was one of a group of former members of the Labour shadow cabinet to rule out serving on Jeremy Corbyn’s front bench if he was elected Labour leader and has been outspoken about the party’s need to prioritise efforts to return to government.

Speaking last month at Sheffield University, Hunt argued that Labour had “marched decisively away from the views of voters on issues that are fundamental to our electoral prospects: immigration, personal financial interest, welfare, public services, and business”.

Asked about Corbyn’s leadership, Hunt reportedly told members of the Cambridge Labour club that Corbyn was “leader until he is not”, stressing that he had won 60% of the vote. “The way you serve the Corbyn leadership is to be as dissenting and creative as possible,” he said, adding that the party was in a “period of intellectual renewal”.

Tristram Hunt = famous for being famous.

so much of labour is beset with its fixation on so-called "class" - it's actually more of a figment than reality - that they would never elect as leader someone as competent as tristram hunt

Jeremy Corbyn = famous for being a commie bxxxxxd!

Jeremy Corbyn questions why Britain commemorates the First World War
Footage from April 2013 shows Labour leader criticised the "shedload" of money due to be spent remembering centenary of WW1

By Ben Riley-Smith, Political Correspondent, video source YouTube/Communist Party1:14PM GMT 01 Nov 2015

Jeremy Corbyn has said he cannot see the reason for commemorating the First World War in footage that has surfaced ahead of Remembrance Sunday.
The Labour leader criticised the “shedload” of money which the Coalition was planning to spend marking the 100th anniversary of the war.
Some four million people visited a remembrance project that saw 888,246 ceramic poppies laid out at the Tower of London in 2014 - one for each British military fatality.

In a video uploaded to YouTube by the Communist Party in April 2013, Mr Corbyn is seen questioning why the country was spending so much remembering the conflict.
"Next year, the government is apparently proposing to spend shedloads of money commemorating the First World War,” he said.
“I'm not quite sure what there is to commemorate about the First World War, other than the mass slaughter of millions of young men and women – mainly men – on the Western Front and all the other places. It was a war of the declining empires.”


The comments were criticised by Tories who said it would be a betrayal for the memories of the fallen not to commemorate the war.
Tom Tugendhat, a Conservative MP who served as an army officer, said: "Commemoration of sacrifice is not glorification of war, as anyone who has fought knows only too well. Not to remember would be a betrayal of that courage."

Jeremy Corbyn critic blocked from running for Oldham West seat 'after being vetoed by trade unions'
Kate Godfrey, who questioned hiring of Seumas Milne, rejected within hours of deadline as party selects seven candidates to interview for by-election.