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Who's expecting news? Early July is my guess and not before.Not long to go!

RED

Morning all, RED I agree wont see news till July, as year end is 30th of June and the last TS for full year results was on the 01 July 2004. One thing that is clear and that is CCR is getting a lot of coverage if we are going by the Alexa rating, as many have stated that the cheap call market is very competitive but EVS seen to be doing a good job promoting it. It maybe that they are concentrating on recruiting dealers at this stage rather than peeps of the street, this in-turn will pay dividends.
Lets say CCR recreate 500 dealers each sign up 10 peeps each spend 5 per month that makes a nice 25,000 per month.

Now if pete and advan get there act together and stop bickering over who will win the race in their sign up competition and there are recruiting 10 dealers a month, and EVS are recruiting 30 per month, we could see 1000 dealers by the end of the finical year and if we go on the currant spend rate it could earn EVS after cost 480,000 profit not bad for the fist year.

currant spend rate? What currency is that then Quin? Always one for 'raisin' a joke, you!

Morning all!

if we get a nice regular spending then the currants will also move up to bananas, and if CCR start to move into apples and pears then thing could look very appetizing indeed, morning advan

morning folks. C, I vaguely remember you mentioning they were to start their main advertising drive but I can't remember which month you said. I don,t think it's started yet, has it? (apart from your own, good imput, and some coverage in the daily nationals).

Morning tq if there are about to start the main add campaign that will help dealers big time as we know its far easier to sell some one something when they have seen it advertised.

Morning J! As far as I am aware that is still being held in abeyance until all the dealer issues are in place.

Although the dealerships are up and running, there are quite a few technical additions to be completed before it can be really promoted to the public.

Quite amazing how the present dealer rate, which is well up into the hundreds has been achieved by word of mouth and from the BB's.

It is still under test so it must certainly be being well tested!!!!

Thanks C. As Q says, once CCR is 'out there', and something the public recognise, it will be far easier to get more people interested I can see that, from EVS's point of view, it wouldn't do to be getting very high demand before they are confident all the checks on the system have been done and all the wrinkles ironed out. They are obviously going to be offering a 'platinum' service at bargain basement prices, no matter how high the demand!!

There have been quite a few comments (from the usual doomspreaders mainly) regarding how the marketing costs will sap EVS funds.

The idea of the dealership washes this view away as the dealership is a cost-free, mass marketing tool that will present CCR to the whole of the UK.

If for example, as Q said, we had a 1000 dealers at year end, as a dealer, you would sensibly expect to have anywhere from 500-2000 people on your books with a number. Add that up to ssee how many people will know about CCR without ANY marketing from EVS!!!

I wont go as far as to say it's networking, but it's very close! And we all know how fast that works! Telecom Plus, Anne Summers, Tupperware etc etc!

Add to all those customers who are using international calls and the people they are calling telling other friends and family???

As shareholders in the company I believe everyone should at least sign up as a dealer. The advantages of doing this are:

1. It costs you nothing except a little time
2. You will be able to earn commission on all your external and internal calls
3. The company are offering a 5% bonus on commission rates for the next 3 months
4. You will be doing your bit for your company


For more information on becoming a dealer please email pete@085.ndo.co.uk

I am a registered Super Dealer, and will be able to get you started straight away.

Alexa ranking for CCR hit a new peak today of 134,189.

Ah, but that's because Mr. Jauncey and Mr. Evans are sitting at their desks all day hitting the refresh button (lol)

More inclined to believe it is the work of the dealers increasing the customer bases though!

Well, off to Manchester for the weekend! Laptop in tow so I can keep an eye on all SP! HOLDING WELL CONSIDERING THE TRADES TODAY!

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND ALL!

I know we have had various calculations regarding how many customers each of the 200 or so dealers might sign up, but one figure we cannot begin to calculate is the amount of CCR numbers that individuals have registered and are using that have not gone through dealers.
I guess we may have an update when we get the trading statement in the next few days/weeks.

I have over 60 in my personal address book GV, I got my daughters all to have one registered to their mobiles and their friends too, so when they are all gassing on my home phone to their mates on mobiles, I am only coughing up 10p! (and getting a commission)!

These back of fag packet calculations are getting siller by the day.

My own back of postage stamp calcualtion indicates very small numbers of people using this system. It is certainly not particularly cheap compared with other cheap call operators and has a strange system where you have to register every number you want to call.

The market seems unimpressed as the price keeps falling!

Only one MM now on the bid of 4.3. The rest are on 4.1.

All SELLS today so far.

A further fall can be expected soon.

Question does the Alexa rating count hits if they are made through a dealers URL link ie mine www.cheapercallrate.info it goes to the CCR home page but with my web address ?

The Alexa ratings are just web site hits and not ameasure of any business done. It is a very poor measure and can easily be faked to make the numbers bigger. Very suspicious.

Quinan thats a nice domain name you have!

The type of business that EVS is in, is a high risk proposition. There is nothing wrong with the company and its products all look good. It is the valuation that I have trouble with. They cannot carry on with their current margins for ever as the cut price call market is being squeezed from several directions.

You only have to look at web sites like

http://niftylist.co.uk/

to see how cheap calls can be.

Many people on this BB and the Traders' BB are using www.18866.com and www.1899.com for their calls. Several people who have companies are also using them for cheap international calls, cheap UK calls and cheap calls to mobiles.

The web site http://niftylist.co.uk/ gives even cheaper calls to some places than 1899 and 18866.

EVS have a new part of their company called Cheaper Call Rate. It is cheaper than BT and some call companies, but nowhere near the cheapest. Cheapness of calls is the prime mover in the cheap call market. How successful CCR becomes s anyone's guess at the moment.

This is a good one