Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Jeremy Corbyn snubs business leaders amid warning his economic plans 'risk failure'
Labour leader turns down invite to speak at CBI conference while Liam Byrne, former chief secretary to the Treasury, criticises Corbynomics

By Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent9:38AM GMT 03 Nov 2015

Jeremy Corbyn has snubbed some of Britain's key business leaders by rejecting an invitation to address an important conference next week.
Mr Corbyn had been invited to speak at the CBI conference but the lobbying organisation confirmed to The Telegraph that he had rejected the offer.
The Labour leader had been invited to give a "general speech" and would have followed a long line of previous leaders who have taken up the opportunity to set out their agenda to the business community.
Mr Corbyn has had a difficult relationship with business since taking over his party's leadership. His first speech to the party was criticised by business leaders who questioned the "anti-market agenda" and "sixth-form socialism" of his economic policies.
Mr Corbyn's latest snub came as Mr Corbyn's economic plans were criticised by Liam Byrne, Labour's former chief secretary to the Treasury.


Mr Byrne told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that his plans "risk failure" and have left business leaders feeling "anxious".

Mr Byrne, who infamously left a note for his successor in the Treasury saying "sorry there's no money left - good luck", criticised the Labour leader's plans for big public spending, so-called "people's quantitative easing" - printing money for investment in infrastructure - and widespread renationalisation.
He warned that Labour needed a "big debate" to get its economic policy right.

Mr Byrne said: "We've got to come up with better ideas. We've now got an economy where investment is falling and we're losing good jobs to China.
"We've got workers working harder and getting paid less. We've got billionaires going up and we've also got child poverty going up."
But he warned: "I think there's a risk in the tone in some of the debates we've had in the Labour party that we should get in a big head-butting competition with business."
He said he wanted to "rewrite the rules" when it comes to the likes of the Bank of England and "seize on common cause with business reformers".
Labour has sought in recent weeks to build up its economic credibility after Mr Byrne's now infamous note to his successor at the Treasury was credited with damaging Labour's chances at the 2015 general election.
David Cameron repeatedly used it to hammer home the Tory message that their opponent wrecked the economy, carrying the letter in his top pocket during the final weeks of the campaign.


Mr Corbyn has previously indicated that he would want to renationalise the railways.
He has also suggested creating a national investment bank to fund infrastructure projects which would issue debt to be bought by the Bank of England - effectively meaning the Bank would fund government spending on housing, energy, transport and other projects.

JC may be principled in his own way, but as a party leader he also needs to be pragmatic
this is clearly something he has never learned ......
still, the militant unions in their guise as representing the broad labour party, voted him in, so the true labour movement will either have to live with him - or sack him

Compare Cameron and JC.


“An untruth must be spoken, where need requires. For whether men lie, or say true, it is with one and the same object. Men lie, because they think to gain by deceiving others; and speak the truth, because they expect to get something by their true speaking, and to be trusted afterwards in more important matters. Thus, though their conduct is so opposite, the end of both is alike. If there were no gain to be got, your true-speaking man would tell untruths as much as your liar, and your liar would tell the truth as much as your true-speaking man.” …

Aye but there's speaking shite and speaking shite. Corbyn wins hands down in that department :0) And then there is you Fred GOBSHITE!

fred picks and chooses questions to answer, and even when he does "answer" it is rarely either straight or even answering the question asked

hence, to give just a very recent example, there was never a proper answer to 64289, but just a bit of unfocussed nonsense

It is not just clothes. It is personal memorabilia and jewellery of Thatcher. It would have been good if the V&A had bought it. Whether some people like her or not, she was a very popular PM and we were the envy of the world to have such a strong leader.

popular is questionable; strong undoubtedly

Manuel,

Giving you a chance for self-reflection!


But, there, there.

You will feel better later!






(Perhaps.)

Manuel,

Giving you a chance for self-reflection!


But, there, there.

You will feel better later!






(Perhaps.)

She was popular enough to keep getting elected.

She had guts we need her now !!!

Don't worry, Big Dave has it all in hand.

No Max she would have a lot more sorted than Dave , Merkel wouldn't be telling her what to do that's for sure .

as i said about fred a couple of posts back ..... plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

She had other peoples' guts on her hands, not her own.

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But, some like a brawn without brains.


"While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind."



Every time the UK goes into a military operation I would like to see half the cabinet and the eldest members of their families in the front line.

It is easy to sacrifice others for your needs and cleanse oneself with a "celebration", eulogy and orbitary and then forget.

Manuel,

I am not your Shaman or Mentor.

You couldn't afford me.

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Try thinking a little for yourself rather than trotting out self-held "beliefs".

fred - you are such a sanctimonious and supercilious little maggot

on the one hand, you quote kipling and write
" eulogy and obituary and then forget"
but then tacitly support corbyn's refusal to honour the dead of all conflicts on remembrance sunday