Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

JC may be principled in his own way, but as a party leader he also needs to be pragmatic
this is clearly something he has never learned ......
still, the militant unions in their guise as representing the broad labour party, voted him in, so the true labour movement will either have to live with him - or sack him

Compare Cameron and JC.


“An untruth must be spoken, where need requires. For whether men lie, or say true, it is with one and the same object. Men lie, because they think to gain by deceiving others; and speak the truth, because they expect to get something by their true speaking, and to be trusted afterwards in more important matters. Thus, though their conduct is so opposite, the end of both is alike. If there were no gain to be got, your true-speaking man would tell untruths as much as your liar, and your liar would tell the truth as much as your true-speaking man.” …

Aye but there's speaking shite and speaking shite. Corbyn wins hands down in that department :0) And then there is you Fred GOBSHITE!

fred picks and chooses questions to answer, and even when he does "answer" it is rarely either straight or even answering the question asked

hence, to give just a very recent example, there was never a proper answer to 64289, but just a bit of unfocussed nonsense

It is not just clothes. It is personal memorabilia and jewellery of Thatcher. It would have been good if the V&A had bought it. Whether some people like her or not, she was a very popular PM and we were the envy of the world to have such a strong leader.

popular is questionable; strong undoubtedly

Manuel,

Giving you a chance for self-reflection!


But, there, there.

You will feel better later!






(Perhaps.)

Manuel,

Giving you a chance for self-reflection!


But, there, there.

You will feel better later!






(Perhaps.)

She was popular enough to keep getting elected.

She had guts we need her now !!!

Don't worry, Big Dave has it all in hand.

No Max she would have a lot more sorted than Dave , Merkel wouldn't be telling her what to do that's for sure .

as i said about fred a couple of posts back ..... plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

She had other peoples' guts on her hands, not her own.

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But, some like a brawn without brains.


"While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind."



Every time the UK goes into a military operation I would like to see half the cabinet and the eldest members of their families in the front line.

It is easy to sacrifice others for your needs and cleanse oneself with a "celebration", eulogy and orbitary and then forget.

Manuel,

I am not your Shaman or Mentor.

You couldn't afford me.

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Try thinking a little for yourself rather than trotting out self-held "beliefs".

fred - you are such a sanctimonious and supercilious little maggot

on the one hand, you quote kipling and write
" eulogy and obituary and then forget"
but then tacitly support corbyn's refusal to honour the dead of all conflicts on remembrance sunday

I don't know why you answer him any more ,i think most have him squelched .

you're right jimmy, but most of the time i manage to just ignore him

Corbyn said,

"I'm not sure what there is to commemorate about the First World War."

He fails to realise that is not to commemorate but it is remembrance. I can't imagine anyone commemorates WWI.