Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Manuel,

I am not your Shaman or Mentor.

You couldn't afford me.

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Try thinking a little for yourself rather than trotting out self-held "beliefs".

fred - you are such a sanctimonious and supercilious little maggot

on the one hand, you quote kipling and write
" eulogy and obituary and then forget"
but then tacitly support corbyn's refusal to honour the dead of all conflicts on remembrance sunday

I don't know why you answer him any more ,i think most have him squelched .

you're right jimmy, but most of the time i manage to just ignore him

Corbyn said,

"I'm not sure what there is to commemorate about the First World War."

He fails to realise that is not to commemorate but it is remembrance. I can't imagine anyone commemorates WWI.

just as an aside about WW1 dead ......

i recently received my old school mag in which was a list of all those who died in 1915 alone ......
there were 176 of them, ranging in age from 18 to 50 .....
overall, the school lost 700 in WW1
at the time, the school had a total "population" of perhaps 650

Hays,

Bullshit as usual.


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Pop off to Tory PHQ and get the next mantra.

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Manuel,

I see you have added "telepathy" to your unending talents.

I see Cameron is getting ready for the next U-turn on Syria and the EU.

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Osborne is laying down the rules for the EU kicking the UK out.

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Wake up boy!

Your time might be up!

What U-turn is that Fred?

Syria and Cameron preparing to get out of the EU.

Check the media.

"Commons committee warns David Cameron against Syria vote"


Watch and Wait.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34697206


Don't rely on his lips.

aid for syrian refugees
heaven forbid that the mail should ever be accused of being sensationalist, but i just saw today's headline saying that UNHCR and similar had wasted about 50% of the money given to this cause on PR, admin and other nonsense

at least i know that the bit we gave was spent 100% on clothing and toys and was distributed by hand and on the spot in lesbos ...... even the flight tickets were donated

Nigel Farage: 'Old Labour' voters 'appalled' by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views
The Ukip Leader has said his Party will 'bite very, very hard' on the 'old Labour' voters who would be 'appalled' by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views

By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent1:53PM GMT 03 Nov 2015
Ukip will "bite very, very hard" on the "old Labour" voters who would be "appalled" by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views, Nigel Farage has said.
The Ukip leader said many Labour voters would be uncomfortable about Mr Corbyn allegedly "cosying up to the IRA", believing the UK should give up the nuclear deterrent and wanting to give Falklands back to Argentina.
Speaking at the official announcement of the Party's candidate in the Oldham by-election, Mr Farage described the Labour leader as a "trendy hard-left Labour man" and said this by-election would be a test of whether Mr Corbyn can connect with voters outside north London.


Mr Farage said: "Is Jeremy Corbyn patriotic? Does he believe in this country? Does he believe in the people of this country?
"So I feel that we really, really can bite very, very hard into that old Labour vote who frankly bear little in common with the north London, trendy hard-left Labour man.
"This very much amongst Labour voters is going to be a test of, does Corbyn connect outside of north London and a very narrow, pretty extreme left-wing group of people.
"And all the indications that we've got is that very large numbers of Labour people are frankly pretty appalled by many of the stances that Mr Corbyn takes."


The Party Leader is backing John Bickley as the candidate for Oldham West and Royton, but said he would buy teetotal Jeremy Corbyn a "sparkling water" if they met on the campaign trail before voters go to the polls in early December.
The by-election has been triggered by the death of Labour veteran Michael Meacher, who represented Oldham in the Commons for 45 years.
Mr Farage admitted UKip has a "mountain to climb" as they will be forced to overturn a Labour majority of 14,000.
Kate Godfrey, a critic of Jeremy Corbyn, was blocked from running as the Labour candidate in the election earlier this week, increasing concerns that Mr Corbyn is attempting to rig the selection process to ensure a loyal supporter secures the seat.

fred'll defend him ....... he'll say we're all being self-righteous blah blah blah ...... and good old JC shows he's a man of principles and that we should all admire him for his stance blah blah blah

or at least fred won't ever say anything that straightforward lest it gets hung on him at some future date ..... when he gets hanged?

Can't wait for him to defend this one LOL!!!!
Former minister threatens to quit Labour over plan to consult 'madcap coalition of trots, Islamists and anti-West fury chimps' over Syria
Tom Harris, former transport minister, criticises Labour suggestion that it would consult Stop the War coalition


By Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent10:04AM GMT 03 Nov 2015

A former Labour minister has threatened to quit the party after it suggested it would consult the Stop the War coalition before taking a view on military intervention in Syria.
Tom Harris, a former transport minister, said it was "goodbye" from him after Catherine West, a shadow foreign office minister, said the party would consult the group before agreeing to any extension to air strikes into Syria.


In a Facebook post, Mr Harris said: "Shadow Minister Catherine West says she’ll consult “Stop the War” in the event of a vote on military action in Syria. Jesus. Where to start?
"You’ll be familiar with the phrase “Jump the Shark”; it’s when a TV series is widely acknowledged to have become so unbelievable that it’s obviously lost the plot. It derives from an episode of “Happy Days”, when Fonzie literally jumps a shark filled tank on his motorbike. Apparently.
"So anyway, after 60 per cent votes for sure fire election losers, IRA-supporting Shadow Chancellors and Scottish Labour unnecessarily splitting the party on issues over which it has no responsibility, we have a Shadow Minister telling “Stop the War” – a madcap coalition of trots, Islamists and anti-west fury chimps – that Labour will consult them on how it will vote on Syria.


"So that’s it. Labour has jumped the shark. It has gone from 'a bit bonkers' to 'irredeemable' in the space of a single day. And I give up. That’s it for me. Giving. Up. Goodbye.”


The former Glasgow MP later told PoliticsHome that he is "not leaving the party - yet".
Ms West later said her comment had been addressed not to the Stop the War Coalition which organised the meeting, but to a group of Syrian refugees who attended.
"When I said I wanted to consult with them, I meant that group of Syrian people," she said.
"These are people who who have lost families and who are refugees ... They have been through a terrible time and they feel they haven't been listened to."
The row comes after it emerged that David Cameron is likely to postpone his plans to bring a vote on Syria air strikes before Parliament.

Manuel,

To me, you seem an individual of wavering principle and capable of making changes as often as changes in the direction of the wind.

Of course, at the same time calling changes made at whim and mainly for personal gain or self-advantage in any situation or environment just simple flexible adaptations.

I am guessing that you are referring to Jeremy Corbyn, who I doubt needs me or any others to defend him.

After the smearing attempts by LC and tory Central office to smear him, he seems to be doing very well.

But do try and read quotes or misquotes about him in context.


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It will be interesting to see if Cameron and Osborne go down in history as the "pair" who led the GB out of the EU and broke up the UK.

Should go down a bomb in Scotland and NI.

Ps.

I am glad you may have sated your conscience with your donations to the Syrian refugees.