Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Syria and Cameron preparing to get out of the EU.

Check the media.

"Commons committee warns David Cameron against Syria vote"


Watch and Wait.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34697206


Don't rely on his lips.

aid for syrian refugees
heaven forbid that the mail should ever be accused of being sensationalist, but i just saw today's headline saying that UNHCR and similar had wasted about 50% of the money given to this cause on PR, admin and other nonsense

at least i know that the bit we gave was spent 100% on clothing and toys and was distributed by hand and on the spot in lesbos ...... even the flight tickets were donated

Nigel Farage: 'Old Labour' voters 'appalled' by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views
The Ukip Leader has said his Party will 'bite very, very hard' on the 'old Labour' voters who would be 'appalled' by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views

By Laura Hughes, Political Correspondent1:53PM GMT 03 Nov 2015
Ukip will "bite very, very hard" on the "old Labour" voters who would be "appalled" by Jeremy Corbyn's unpatriotic views, Nigel Farage has said.
The Ukip leader said many Labour voters would be uncomfortable about Mr Corbyn allegedly "cosying up to the IRA", believing the UK should give up the nuclear deterrent and wanting to give Falklands back to Argentina.
Speaking at the official announcement of the Party's candidate in the Oldham by-election, Mr Farage described the Labour leader as a "trendy hard-left Labour man" and said this by-election would be a test of whether Mr Corbyn can connect with voters outside north London.


Mr Farage said: "Is Jeremy Corbyn patriotic? Does he believe in this country? Does he believe in the people of this country?
"So I feel that we really, really can bite very, very hard into that old Labour vote who frankly bear little in common with the north London, trendy hard-left Labour man.
"This very much amongst Labour voters is going to be a test of, does Corbyn connect outside of north London and a very narrow, pretty extreme left-wing group of people.
"And all the indications that we've got is that very large numbers of Labour people are frankly pretty appalled by many of the stances that Mr Corbyn takes."


The Party Leader is backing John Bickley as the candidate for Oldham West and Royton, but said he would buy teetotal Jeremy Corbyn a "sparkling water" if they met on the campaign trail before voters go to the polls in early December.
The by-election has been triggered by the death of Labour veteran Michael Meacher, who represented Oldham in the Commons for 45 years.
Mr Farage admitted UKip has a "mountain to climb" as they will be forced to overturn a Labour majority of 14,000.
Kate Godfrey, a critic of Jeremy Corbyn, was blocked from running as the Labour candidate in the election earlier this week, increasing concerns that Mr Corbyn is attempting to rig the selection process to ensure a loyal supporter secures the seat.

fred'll defend him ....... he'll say we're all being self-righteous blah blah blah ...... and good old JC shows he's a man of principles and that we should all admire him for his stance blah blah blah

or at least fred won't ever say anything that straightforward lest it gets hung on him at some future date ..... when he gets hanged?

Can't wait for him to defend this one LOL!!!!
Former minister threatens to quit Labour over plan to consult 'madcap coalition of trots, Islamists and anti-West fury chimps' over Syria
Tom Harris, former transport minister, criticises Labour suggestion that it would consult Stop the War coalition


By Michael Wilkinson, Political Correspondent10:04AM GMT 03 Nov 2015

A former Labour minister has threatened to quit the party after it suggested it would consult the Stop the War coalition before taking a view on military intervention in Syria.
Tom Harris, a former transport minister, said it was "goodbye" from him after Catherine West, a shadow foreign office minister, said the party would consult the group before agreeing to any extension to air strikes into Syria.


In a Facebook post, Mr Harris said: "Shadow Minister Catherine West says she’ll consult “Stop the War” in the event of a vote on military action in Syria. Jesus. Where to start?
"You’ll be familiar with the phrase “Jump the Shark”; it’s when a TV series is widely acknowledged to have become so unbelievable that it’s obviously lost the plot. It derives from an episode of “Happy Days”, when Fonzie literally jumps a shark filled tank on his motorbike. Apparently.
"So anyway, after 60 per cent votes for sure fire election losers, IRA-supporting Shadow Chancellors and Scottish Labour unnecessarily splitting the party on issues over which it has no responsibility, we have a Shadow Minister telling “Stop the War” – a madcap coalition of trots, Islamists and anti-west fury chimps – that Labour will consult them on how it will vote on Syria.


"So that’s it. Labour has jumped the shark. It has gone from 'a bit bonkers' to 'irredeemable' in the space of a single day. And I give up. That’s it for me. Giving. Up. Goodbye.”


The former Glasgow MP later told PoliticsHome that he is "not leaving the party - yet".
Ms West later said her comment had been addressed not to the Stop the War Coalition which organised the meeting, but to a group of Syrian refugees who attended.
"When I said I wanted to consult with them, I meant that group of Syrian people," she said.
"These are people who who have lost families and who are refugees ... They have been through a terrible time and they feel they haven't been listened to."
The row comes after it emerged that David Cameron is likely to postpone his plans to bring a vote on Syria air strikes before Parliament.

Manuel,

To me, you seem an individual of wavering principle and capable of making changes as often as changes in the direction of the wind.

Of course, at the same time calling changes made at whim and mainly for personal gain or self-advantage in any situation or environment just simple flexible adaptations.

I am guessing that you are referring to Jeremy Corbyn, who I doubt needs me or any others to defend him.

After the smearing attempts by LC and tory Central office to smear him, he seems to be doing very well.

But do try and read quotes or misquotes about him in context.


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It will be interesting to see if Cameron and Osborne go down in history as the "pair" who led the GB out of the EU and broke up the UK.

Should go down a bomb in Scotland and NI.

Ps.

I am glad you may have sated your conscience with your donations to the Syrian refugees.

The Scotsman

Britain ‘outstrips rest of EU in economic performance’

Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/business/economy/britain-outstrips-rest-of-eu-in-economic-performance-1-3934545#ixzz3qSND9Ku9
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23:10Sunday 01 November 2015 00:00Monday 02 November 2015
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BRITAIN’S economic performance has outstripped all major European Union countries and it is now one of the best places in the world to start up a business, an international survey of wealth and happiness has found.

Government policies aimed at getting people into work in the wake of the financial crash have led to “incredible” results, according to the Legatum Institute.


“This is due to a number of factors including a firm belief in the rule of law, the ability to protect its citizens, and the fact that it is one of most open and free nations in the world.

“However, Britain’s real success has been its recent economic transformation.

“Since the financial crash, the government has prioritised getting people into work.

“And the results – seen in the 2015 prosperity index – are quite incredible.








But the UK’s overall ranking in the think tank’s annual prosperity index, which looks at finances and well-being in 142 countries, has slipped to 15th, down from 13th last year.


Norway remains top of the table, followed by Switzerland, Denmark, New Zealand and Sweden while Ireland is ranked tenth.

The UK climbed nine places to 19th in the economic strand of the index – the first time the nation has exceeded its pre-crash rating, which is calculated by assessing areas such as the rate of unemployment, inflation, and perceived job availability.

Germany remains higher, in fifth place, but has only jumped by four rankings, while France has fallen by eight to 30th, according to the research.

In a boost for Chancellor George Osborne, the think tank puts the improved performance down to the ease of starting a business in Britain as well as the number of people in full-time employment. The institute, which aims to promote prosperity through free enterprise, puts the UK 6th on its entrepreneurship scale and said it now ranks as the best place in the EU for people setting up their own companies.

Nathan Gamester, programme director of the prosperity index, said: “The UK is among the most prosperous countries in the world.


“The UK is growing faster in the economy category than any other major EU country.

“The gap in full-time employment between the richest and poorest 20 per cent of the country has halved since 2009.

“This is the biggest turnaround of any major developed economy.”

In its wider analysis, the institute raises the alarm about the vulnerability of some countries to Islamic State by comparing its latest findings with records relating to Syria and Iraq before the advance of the jihadis.

Tunisia and Morocco are both flagged up as high-risk countries


“Given recent attacks in Tunisia, this is probably not surprising, but the trend in Morocco will concern European governments given its geographic proximity and popularity among holidaymakers,” the report states.



comments

Thanks goodness we have a Tory government able to get us back on our feet. Socialism might sound good to the uninitiated, but in reality it never delivers. Socialist France, with double the unemployment of the UK is a good example of what happens.
Let's stop criticising and sniping at a UK government who is economically competent and thank our lucky stars that we are not depending on oil revenues which recently moved into the red to help pay for our services and build an oil savings fund. The SNP forecasts in the lead up to the referendum have proved to be totally misleading and they had the gall at the time to accuse their Better Together opponents of scaremongering when they warned about volatile oil revenues.
The SNP cannot be trusted. They are incompetent and not fit to govern.


Scotland and the SNP looking after the rich!

Additional higher rate taxpayers

London
£35bn raised in income taxes of which
£16bn (45%) contributed by Additional higher rate taxpayers


Scotland
£11bn raised in income taxes of which
£1.7bn (15%) contributed by Additional higher rate taxpayers

Glad to help

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/income-and-tax-by-gender-region-and-country-2010-to-2011

Colin Welland snuffs it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34711578 A good chap was Colin.

For JB,

Just leave the labour left alone ; do not disturb !.......and come back just 6 weeks before the elections......and after the election : ramp them up a bit.....and same again....why have a go at them now ?...it's not the time....it's perfect as it is !.....

Agreed rf, bored now, don't feed the troll above. As long as Corbyn is their leader in the land of make belief, irrelevant. :0)

RF.

The response to that, for that the moment is that Labour and Libs should let the tory party implode, as it is presently doing, and concentrate of thinking about possible future economic, defence and foreign policies in order not look like a bunch of school boys in the "tuck shop", which the present conmen appear to be.

This seems to be what Jeremy Corbyn and Tim Farron seem to be doing.

They are unlikely to be hustled and appeared shrewd enough not to be worried by the "up and at them brigade" paid for media and LC.

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If you consider the changes and reorganisation that JC was parachuted into by the "organised" labour's past leadership and the resentment of some of that group, I would consider his "slow" game is the right game.

Mind I suppose J.C. wasn't born to rule.

Once again Cameron is failing to answer questions and as he blusters looks more and more foolish!

But I did enjoy the setup questions from the new tory lapdogs!

Cue Roy Orbison "Only The Lonely,Da Dum Do Dooby Do Ahh" :0)

for cameron, substitute fred

"for cameron, substitute fred"

???????

I must be missing something odd from Fred to get that response!

You certainly are missing something H/S. can't put my finger on it though just now.

64346 :-)