goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
Fred1new
- 16 Nov 2015 15:17
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Haze,
You have a friend!
patshere
- 16 Nov 2015 15:27
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We had the 'Arab Spring'
Next it will be the 'American Fall'
105 american military bases occupying countrys who's citizens will start rebellion in 2016.
Chris Carson
- 16 Nov 2015 15:36
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All together Fred:-
Theire's only one Jezza Corbyn
One Jezza Corbyn
Walking along singing a song
Walking in the Jezza wonderland!!!!! LOL!!!
Chris Carson
- 16 Nov 2015 16:01
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Jeremy Corbyn doesn't even have the decency to be angry about the Paris terror attacks
The Labour leader is moving further and further from popular public opinion
By Tom Harris12:13PM GMT 16 Nov 2015Comments1003 Comments
Perhaps Jeremy Corbyn deserves some credit for resisting the most common response to the terrorist attacks in Paris.
After all, it was perfectly natural, if not entirely rational, as news reports of the slaughter filtered through on Friday night, to channel one’s anger and horror into demands for retribution. At midnight on Friday, “Bomb them back into the stone age!” felt almost like a Carringtonesque foreign policy.
But not Corbynesque. His official statement, as you would expect of the Leader of the Opposition, expressed sympathy and sorrow. If he was seething with fury at the jihadist fascists who carried out these dreadful attacks, if he was biting his tongue to prevent himself demanding a full-scale military effort to wipe Isil off the map, then he managed to hide it well.
But of course such thoughts never entered his mind. To his supporters within his own party, this does him credit.
To the broader public, however, to those of us who felt – and still feel – murderous rage at what happened to our fellow Europeans a short skip across the English Channel, Corbyn’s suggestion of a political settlement in Syria leaves us scratching our heads in bewilderment.
We were equally bewildered on Friday morning, as the good news about the “evaporation” of infamous oxygen thief Mohammed Emwazi broke. The inappropriately nicknamed “Jihadi John” was put out of our misery by a US Air Force strike on an Isil camp in Syria. Only Corbyn stood apart from the general celebrations by insisting it would have been preferable if Emwazi had been arrested and put on trial.
He was correct, in the same way that it would have been better if Hitler had been arrested before he got the chance to blow his own brains out. But, as with Emwazi, that was hardly a realistic option.
As with that one individual case, so with the larger issue of a long-term settlement in Syria: better to negotiate a lasting settlement than start another war.
A commendable, perhaps even admirable, notion. But how?
Does Corbyn perhaps think an agreement can be reached between chemical weapons user and mass murderer President Assad and his Islamist, rapist, beheading opponents in Isil? Given the appalling depths of depravity to which both sides have sunk in the last three years, could any agreement between them, even if it were achievable, ever be seen as acceptable by the civilised (as opposed to the Syrian) world?
Corbyn is not a stupid man, so he understands perfectly that a negotiated settlement isn’t going to happen without military intervention (and perhaps not even then). Yet he is steadfastly against such intervention and therefore must persist with his fantasy that negotiation is always the preferred option.
There were similar demands in the aftermath of 9/11, when the existence of Islamism first exploded into the public consciousness. Why try to defeat Al Quaeda? Why not negotiate with them?
Well, let me see … Islamism demands the establishment of a worldwide Islamic state, or caliphate, based on Sharia law, under which women, homosexuals, Jews and every non-Muslim would be (if they were lucky) second class citizens or (if they were Jewish or gay) publicly executed. Among al Quaeda’s manifesto promises are the destruction of Israel and the military defeat and subjugation of America and its allies.
OK, so, what are your starting points for negotiation? Imprisonment of homosexuals, rather than death? The destruction of Israel within its pre-1967 borders, rather than its current ones?
You cannot negotiate with militant Islamism and to claim otherwise is to indulge in a dishonest diversion strategy.
Walking in the Jezza wonderland! Theire's only one Jezza Corbyn! LOL!!!!
patshere
- 16 Nov 2015 16:08
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All said, he is a really nice man. A really really nice man.
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 16:11
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The guy who runs my local newsagent is a really nice man. I guess he could make an ideal candidate to be leader of the Labour Party.
patshere
- 16 Nov 2015 16:13
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Either a War mongrel like Blair or a bleedin heart leftie like Jezza.
Aint we lucky we got Dave.
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 16:15
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http://littleatoms.com/film-music/Jez-sir-I-can-boogie
The definitive list of songs you can sing the words “Jeremy Corbyn” to
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 16:16
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Jez-sir-that's-my-baby
Chris Carson
- 16 Nov 2015 16:17
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LOL!!
Chris Carson
- 16 Nov 2015 16:19
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Hey Fred long BA. You know you want to! :0)
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 17:24
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Remarkable even by his standards, Corbyn has told Laura Kuenssberg that anti-terror police should not operate a shoot-to-kill policy on British streets in the event of a terror attack here:
So Corbyn would ask community police officers to attempt to handcuff Kalashnikov-wielding jihadis?
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 17:26
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Asked by ITV this afternoon if he would have authorised the drone strike which killed Jihadi John, Jeremy Corbyn replied:
JC: “I would only authorise actions that are legal and within the terms of international law.”
ITV: “And you think this was legal and in the terms of international law?”
JC: “Well, I question that.”
Fred1new
- 16 Nov 2015 17:46
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Haze seems to have been down to see Lynton Crosby again.
I do hope they have tipped him.
cynic
- 16 Nov 2015 18:09
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fred - it looks to me that, as usual, you won't take any position but would rather just slate any action that is taken ..... and of course, if no prompt let alone decisive action is taken, then slate that as well
Stan
- 16 Nov 2015 18:15
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More like been down to the Boozer if you ask me Fred.. along with the rest of them -):
Haystack
- 16 Nov 2015 18:32
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Another lefty apologist for loony policies.
Fred1new
- 16 Nov 2015 19:03
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You prefer George Osborne and Wacky Dave's swerves to the right policies and then being u-turned to more moderate stances by their own party.
Laughable.
Haze, just think of them as the U-bend twins.
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Corbyn is coming over to more and more as sensible, while an appearance of gorgeous George or Wavey Dave with a groan.
What a pair of ?????
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Chris Carson
- 16 Nov 2015 19:10
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Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck would have better odds against Jezza ever being Prime Minister of this country.