Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Victim,

When I get my mobility walking allowance I will be able to get to the pub again and make a real nuisance of myself.

Watch out, if I get back!

Well if I'm walking past a pub and everyone suddenly runs out , I'll know you're in there .

JB,

Oh, what a lovely war.

Why not use a few Nukes and drop the around the M.E..

That will learn them a lesson.

They are all bloody barbarians.

Accommodation booking is the answer to the Cynthia (pain).....she booked... sent a dud check that bounced...never turned up....I lost out....

Work to do...will be back later.....

rf were you hosting one of her orgies ???

When some are distorting Corbyn's views on "Shoot to Kill policy", reflect on the below :



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4713753.stm

BBC NEWS | UK | Police shot Brazilian eight times
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/4713753.stm
25 Jul 2005 - The man mistaken for a suicide bomber by police was shot eight times, ... and once in the shoulder, at Stockwell Tube station, south London, on Friday. ... and the police have named two suspects: Muktar Said-Ibrahim, 27, also ...
Police shot Brazilian eight times
Exclusive picture of Jean Charles de Menezes (BBC)
Mr Menezes had been in London for more than three years
The man mistaken for a suicide bomber by police was shot eight times, an inquest into his death has heard.
Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, was shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder, at Stockwell Tube station, south London, on Friday.

Det Insp Elizabeth Baker revealed the details at a hearing in London.

Why don't you go to the football game at Wembley tomorrow Fred , get yourself a nice big black vest ,stuff it full of baguetts put on a stick on beard and nip in to Hamleys on the way to get a platic gun ..Then when you get there use the football chant Akbar Allah ..
You'll have a great evening i promise ..

If I was an armed policeman and saw Manuel, I might think him a shady dubious fellow, possibly a terrorist and deal with him accordingly.

The question is what is the meaning of "accordingly".

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A bit like some of the hysterical responses to the "atrocities" in France.

Some of proposed and wished for actions by Cameron and Hollande and Putin etc. are to placate their public and followers.

How effective they will ultimately be is debatable, but it may be to disseminate their replaceable leadership to other parts of the ME, Europe and the World.

They seem to have the money to be able to do so.

Is it the time to rejoice in the fragmentation of the EU again?

Ummh!

JB,

It reads more like your sort of party than mine.

Enjoy, yourself and don't forget your flag!

A bit like some of the hysterical responses to the "atrocities" in France.......

TYPICAL FRED QUOTE .... 130 people massacred and Fred thinks wanting to wipe out the terrorist group responsible is a hysterical response , f.....g unbelievable .

Who would have thought that Hollande would be the man to ignore the EU and get seriously tough with Da'ish? He is the only one showing some fire in his belly.
Dave premises his speech on the killing of Jihadi John with "it was legitimate self defence" Can you imagine Maggie saying that? We need leaders that say it has it is, not always looking in the side and rear mirrors. "The murderous sonofabitch was taken out at the first clear opportunity we had. And good riddance".
Sky keeps referring to the "Islamic State" as if it was a country rather than a bunch of criminal rag heads stiffened by experienced Sunni soldiers purged from the Iraqi army
Meanwhile Obama, surely the worst president the US has ever had, shrugs his shoulders again after Paris (a setback) and wants to talk about the environment instead. The same man that went back to the golf course after being informed of the beheading of James Foley.
The EU non elected leaders examine the EU constitution, wring their hands and mutter "it will be difficult"...
Don't these people realize that we want to see some outrage and they should tear up the rulebook if necessary?
They can start by stripping citizenship or right of abode for anyone that leaves the country to support prescribed organisations. If in this country, their passports should be revoked, as well as driving licences and NI registration.
All illegals here should de deported quickly and sod the yuman rights lawyers. The trafficking of passports between Pakistan, other countries, and here is common knowledge. I have an ID card for a number of foreign countries that I have lived and worked. Why has it proved so difficult to implement here? For god's sake even relatively impoverished countries can do it. The reason is because there is no political will to do it. Musn't upset minorities you know.

My rant for today.

We need leaders that say it has it is, not always looking in the side and rear mirrors. "The murderous sonofabitch was taken out at the first clear opportunity we had. And good riddance".
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Don't these people realize that we want to see some outrage and they should tear up the rulebook if necessary?

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All illegals here should de deported quickly and sod the yuman rights lawyers.




It would seem "terrorists" have similar mindset about their "opponents".

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Not sure which frightens me the most!

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It's because there's an army of said Lawyers waiting to be paid by us to help poor souls stay here whatever they have done . It costs £18,000 to take to court a single sham marriage case .But well done for venting your feelings .

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-shadow-minister-tells-journalists-jeremy-corbyn-is-a-fing-disgrace-after-angry-meeting-a6737306.html

Labour shadow minister tells journalists Jeremy Corbyn is a 'f***ing disgrace' after angry meeting
Some MPs were reportedly unhappy about Mr Corbyn questioning the Government's 'shoot to kill' policy and action on Syria

One of Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow ministers has branded their leader a “f***ing disgrace” after he attended an acrimonious meeting with Labour MPs.

Some politicians at the private Monday evening meeting were reportedly angry that Mr Corbyn had questioned police having a “shoot to kill” policy for terror suspects on British soil.
There was also said to be dissent over the Labour leader’s statement earlier in the day effective ruling out support for military action in Syria.

“He doesn’t answer anything. He got roasted, he’s a f****** disgrace,” the MP said, according to both the Daily Mirror and The Sun newspapers.

The BBC reports another anonymous MP as saying the Labour leader was “aggressively heckled” during the meeting.

A spokesperson for Mr Corbyn said that those who express critical views “volubly” were in the minority and that the shadow cabinet was united on blocking military action in Syria.

I'll say it again ....


A bit like some of the hysterical responses to the "atrocities" in France.......

TYPICAL FRED QUOTE .... 130 people massacred and Fred thinks wanting to wipe out the terrorist group responsible is a hysterical response , f.....g unbelievable .

On 21 May 2004, Mr Corbyn raised an early day motion entitled “pigeon bombs”, proposing that the House register being “appalled but barely surprised” that MI5 reportedly proposed to load pigeons with explosives as a weapon. The motion continued: “The House… believes that humans represent the most obscene, perverted, cruel, uncivilised and lethal species ever to inhabit the planet and looks forward to the day when the inevitable asteroid slams into the earth and wipes them out thus giving nature the opportunity to start again.” It was not carried.

Hays,

Who was the "shadow minister".

Sounds suspicious to me.

I will have to put JB or It on to him!

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PS.

have a look at the "conception" behind Pidgeon bombs.

From Wikipedia;

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL); also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the Islamic State of Iraq and ash-Sham or simply Islamic State (IS) is a Wahhabi/Salafi jihadist extremist militant group and self-proclaimed Islamic state and caliphate, which is led by and mainly composed of Sunni Arabs from Iraq and Syria.

As of March 2015, it has control over territory occupied by 10 million people in Iraq and Syria, and through loyal local groups, has control over small areas of Libya, Nigeria and Afghanistan. The group also operates or has affiliates in other parts of the world, including North Africa and South Asia.

The group is known in Arabic as ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah fī 'l-ʿIrāq wa-sh-Shām, leading to the acronym Da'ish or Daesh the Arabic equivalent of "ISIL".

On 29 June 2014, the group proclaimed itself to be a worldwide caliphate, with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi being named its caliph, and renamed itself ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah "Islamic State" (IS)).

A caliphate is a form of Islamic government led by a caliph - a person considered to be a political and religious successor to the Islamic prophet, Muhammad and a leader of the entire Muslim community.

As a caliphate, it claims religious, political and military authority over all Muslims worldwide, and that "the legality of all emirates, groups, states, and organisations, becomes null by the expansion of the caliphate's authority and arrival of its troops to their areas".

The Islamic State is not really a mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse.

There does seem to be a 'flawed logic' which persists:

In Islam, the practice of takfir, or excommunication, is theologically perilous. “If a man says to his brother, ‘You are an infidel,’ ” the Prophet said, “then one of them is right.” If the accuser is wrong, he himself has committed apostasy by making a false accusation. The punishment for apostasy is death.

Denying the holiness of the Koran or the prophecies of Muhammad is straightforward apostasy. But a leader called Zarqawi and the state he spawned take the position that many other acts can remove a Muslim from Islam. These include, in certain cases, selling alcohol or drugs, wearing Western clothes or shaving one’s beard, voting in an election—even for a Muslim candidate—and being lax about calling other people apostates. Being a Shiite, as most Iraqi Arabs are, meets the standard as well, because the Islamic State regards Shiism as innovation, and to innovate on the Koran is to deny its initial perfection.

That means roughly 200 million Shia are marked for death. So too are the heads of state of every Muslim country, who have elevated man-made law above Sharia by running for office or enforcing laws not made by God.

Following takfiri doctrine, the Islamic State is committed to purifying the world by killing vast numbers of people. The lack of objective reporting from its territory makes the true extent of the slaughter unknowable, but social-media posts from the region suggest that individual executions happen more or less continually, and mass executions every few weeks. Muslim “apostates” are the most common victims.

That's enough for now....

ISIL's (ie. a member of this particular caliphate's) route to a place in paradise after death is the next most important thing to understand/know what they believe....