EWRobson
- 09 Sep 2004 19:13
Header updated on 24th April 2008
Market has been looking for an announcement re a licensing deal for Cetilistat, the obesity drug; instead it has been hit with the withdrawal of Renzapride, colonitis drug, following an unauspicious performance at Phase III. Folloiwng has been edited to reflect the situation
Alizyme is a speciality biopharmaceutical company that has been developing product categories for inflammatory gastrointestinal disorders, obesity and supportive cancer care . It is currently trading at a five year low of around 27p with a market cap. of around 60m. Prudential owned a near 20% stake (reduced in sale today?) There was good institutional taku-up of a placing in March rasing 10m at 50p; no wonder there has been "angry" selling. The directors hold 3.34million shares or about 1.7% of the equity (of which Tim McCarthy, CEO has 1.1million); thus, after some 10 years of development effort, they must be comletely focused on the success of the company and multiplying the value of their holdings (but with real doubts about their marketing competence). Alizyme had previously raised capital sums in the past three years at around 70p and 100p so it was somewhat surprising to see the share fall through its 70p support level. Clearly one reason is the current disaffection with the biopharm. market. Another has to be disappointment for the failure of the CEO, Tim McCarthy, to deliver on his expectation that 2007 would be a transformative year. The key question is whether 2008 will be that year and when is it likely to happen? The following points are relevant:
1. Alizyme did sign one deal in late-2007: with Prometheus Labs (U.S.) for the Colal-Pred, at a potential market of $250m, the smallest potential of their four products. Prometheus pay $2.5m up-front with a total of $15m payable upon future development milestones. They are responsible for all US development costs and will pay Alizyme undisclosed royalty rates which will increase with net sales. The deal was followed by a Japanese licensing agreement (which also gave Alizymen access to additional potential drug candidates).
2. This perhaps sets a precedent for subsequent deals for their other products. Cetistat (obesity) has an estimated potential of $1 billion p.a. sales and ATL-104 (mucositis) has a potential of $500m sales. The U.S. FDA has encouraged AZM to also launch a Phase III exercise for Cetistat for all diabetes sufferer because of positive II results for diabetes sufferers who also suffer from obesity.
3. Whilst the development programmes for the other drugs are on-going and appear to be satisfactorily funded from present resources, this is not the case for Cetilistat. The "Product and Company Update statement" (7th Jan 2008) says that 'the Phase III development programme is now ready to commence following the conclusion of a commercial deal'. So, perhaps for the first time, the development programme would be delayed if there was not a funding deal in either the U.S. or Europe. The reason for the sp shooting to nearly 200p in 2004 was the signing of a deal with Takada of Japan for some $50M development funding.
In response to a question at the Conference to report the Renzapride fiasco, McCarthy seemed pleased that there were six potential bidders for Cetilistat; however, that implies any announcement is some time away. When it comes, however, taking a line from the Takada and Prometheus deals it would seem likely that there would be of the order of $100m funding to support development. Of course, the major cash flow will be from licensing of actual sales. The analysts do their own discounted cash flow exercises; those seen tend to dwarf current valuations of the company.
There is not a strong argument for jumping in unless and until the sp establishes a baseline. Given the peaks in the sp, the time will probably come when there will be a very significant jump. An alternative scenario, is that management continue to rpove their level of incompetence and a buy-our results. Clearly the strength of the company is in their biochemists.
Eric

Toya
- 23 Apr 2008 07:50
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But at least we can still hope for a deal on Cetilistat one of these days...
Guscavalier
- 23 Apr 2008 08:02
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there was indeed a whiff but, not the right type on this occasion sp31.5p
Toya
- 23 Apr 2008 09:05
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Nicely put Gus - more like the whiff that's been blowing over the south-east (from the Continent) by all accounts. Decided to sit tight for now as there's a chance it might bounce a bit higher, given time
EWRobson
- 23 Apr 2008 09:11
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If anyone is planning to listen to the webcast it would be good if you could post any comment re Cetilistat - bound to be pressurised by analysts given this disappointment. Many thanks. Eric
neil777
- 23 Apr 2008 09:27
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Will keep you posted.
Guscavalier
- 23 Apr 2008 09:38
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Recent developments have made me a little bit sceptical. The Board certainly got the timing right in raising a further 10m @ 50p per share not long ago ahead of this announcement. Institutions will not be happy with this especially the the Pru imho with their large stake. Of course if/when a Cetilstat deal occurs, all may well be forgiven but, in the mean time, pressure will now mount and I do not think this management will be given alot more time without some positive development. I will continue to hold for now. sp30.5p
hangon
- 23 Apr 2008 10:44
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These things happen - yet on reflection if there is no significant benefit (to the Patient) - you have to ask why this wasn't spotted a while ago. (Shades of British Biotech, when investors' money finally gave "Merimostat" cancer-patients about two extra weeks - if they were lucky!)) - and BB had wormed its way into the FTSE!
- Regulators, don't you love 'em?
Sure the early trials determine the drug isn't a killer, yet at some point the drug was said to cure xxx . . . . . and I presume that was because they'd tried it on someone suffering from xxxx . . . . . . . or was it - they cured a mouse that had a poorly foot . . . . and somehow thought it would cure madness in Politicians?
[[Anyone close to the Co can suggest what is likley (ie now), as this means their focus and cash will be on the other products.]]
This stock was 1.20 about a year ago - and some of the fall is due to "Market woes" - I read there was a funding at 50p - well, just as well . . . looking a bit of a joke this Management. . . . Oh deary. . . . something good will be needed to stop a further slide as Management tries to explain themselves!
EWRobson
- 23 Apr 2008 13:03
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Whilst hangon's comments are understandable, there is an alternative viewpoint. Phase III frequently brings about the death-knell of drugs that have passed previous tests: the statistical demands to pass are more stringent with a much larger population. Interesting that, whilst 60% reported benefits from Renzapride, 55% did so for placebo! In other words a lot of the benefit is psychological!
I have not followed Renzapride nearly as closely as cetilistat. I believe the Phase III risk is much less becuase previous tests have demonstrated better results than the established drug, Xenical, without the negative side effects. The FDA have also recommended a separate project for diabetes treatment, irrespective of the obesity effects. We thus, in effect, have two drugs so that news in the last six months could be seen as replacing one potential blockbuster, Renzapride, with another, Cetilistat for diabetes.
At 31p we have a cap of about 70m which is below figures between 100m and 120m for the nearest competitors with AZM having the advantage, typically, of being more advanced in the development process. So it should be worthwhile staying in board. Nevertheless, I am disappointed and hurting in the pocket - could do with a bit of obesity there!
Eric
Fred1new
- 23 Apr 2008 13:20
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Eric, think of it as trying to make you lighter, leaner and fitter.
I did point out a lot earlier, that the area Alizyme is in has the possibilities of drugs producing multiple side effects, as can be seen by reviewing the side effects of other drugs in the group.
The best way to reduce one's weight is to keep one mouth closed for longer periods.
Also having made and lost some money on smaller drug companies realise that the time to invest in them is when they have a positive cash flow. If the product is good it will sell and more often than not the growth will continue.
If you are a medium or short term trader, that is a different matter and can be based on ramping and deramping which goes on this and other threads.
Guscavalier
- 23 Apr 2008 13:56
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Eric,I listened to the Webcast and apart from the disappointment with Renzapride (which they needlessly went into in more detail), very little more was gleened. With respect to Cetilstat, TM said that they continue to be in discussion with 6 large pharmas and that he would expect there to be developments in 2008. He said when asked, that he was not under any additional pressure but, he would say that wouldn't he, what else could he say. I think there was a question with probably innuendo attached when the questioner asked how long it takes the Board to make a decision as to weather to further develop a drug once trial results are known.TM said to the effect that he had received the full data this week in respect of Renzapride and a decision was made quickly. I just wonder if this question was raised given the recent fund raising. I hope TM has some better news to report by AGM as the situation may well get taken out of his hands imho.
scotinvestor
- 23 Apr 2008 14:47
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going down further..........glad i didnt buy recently. think i'll avoid until some good news appears....if it ever does that is
Kivver
- 23 Apr 2008 18:03
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always said it was all or nothing!!! The fact nobody has can come rushing in to partner them probably says it all.
EWRobson
- 23 Apr 2008 19:18
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Many thanks, Gus. Good to see 6 pharmas involved in discussions. Bad news is that implies we are still some way from an agreement. Agree AGM is probably the earliest for hearing something positive.
scotinvestor
- 24 Apr 2008 14:36
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oh dear!
10%trades already.....ALL sells just about
Guscavalier
- 24 Apr 2008 17:45
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For reference, sustantial holders as per 2007 Report & Accounts:-
Prudential Gp 44,197,627 shs-------20%
Legal & Gen. 10,840,536 shs-------4.9%
Bluehone 9,303,088shs-------4.2%
ABN-Amro 7,650,000shs-------3.5%
Univ.Sup.Scheme 6,855,595 shs------3.1%
Bluehone was established in 2005 and its partners were former fund managers at F&C Asset Management and F&C is also a partner in the business.
Bluehone specialises in small company focused funds and tends to invest for capital growth over the medium to long term.
hangon
- 24 Apr 2008 17:58
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If this drops to 20p, I may buy some.
Are AGM's well-attended?
Should be exciting!
Guscavalier
- 24 Apr 2008 18:08
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If it is any consolation, I certainly think Pru and L&G will keep the Board on their metal.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2008 19:22
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Gus based on your analysis the sale of 18.074mill shares must be Prudential or rather M&G as only 5% of total Pru. holding is not M&G. Clearly, that was significant cause of seondary fall over last 24 hours in spite of some reasonable buying. I had to close my own CFD account as I didn't have funds to hold the position once it went negative. Sad, but one of those things. Its a high risk way of proceeding: big risks but big rewards if you get it right. Went on the internet at 7.55 Wednesday morning as I thought there might be an announcement on Cetilistat following some significant buys on Tuesday. Only to see the Renzapride announcement and the shares falling through the floor. A stop loss wouldn't have been any good because first trades were down at 27p. :0)
I initially bought AZM 5 years ago at 27p and have made some decent profits. They have actually come a long way in 5 years. If we accept the analysts figure that Renzapride accounts for 16% of the sp then the fall is overdone. That seems sensible as spend on the drug has evidently been 20mill. out of some 100mill (guesstimate). Company must be worth more than current 60mill. Against that, we still seem to be a distance from a cetilistat announcement. There may not be any cause for a recovery in the short-term. I'll have to watch from the sidelines anyway for a while - so it will probably go through the roof! I'll edit the header to bring it up to date.
Good luck, one and all.
Eric
Guscavalier
- 25 Apr 2008 08:25
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Sorry how its turned out Eric. As you say, big rewards if you can get it right. As regards the 18m+ share sale, those shares must have gone somewhere as I would have expected the sp to fall further if they were overhanging. Management have upset some big investors. I await a RNS re shareholding changes. sp 28.75p
EWRobson
- 27 Apr 2008 21:37
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Thanks Gus. Pretty sanguine about it. The negative for AZM management is that they will have lost it, in general, with the bigger investors so they are now on their own. Like the property market, they are now in a buyers market with no way of raising more funds except by licensing deals. May be a good thing. If more than one pharma wants cetilistat they should still be able to do a good deal and need it before they start Phase III. If only one pharma really wants it they are in a difficult situation. The downside is always a takover - good for short-term profits but stops it becoming a lovely future cash cow. I will watch for a while and no doubt will be back in - better the devil you know (or think you know!)
Eric