Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Anyone seen or heard from jimmy lately is he about .

The BITCH " freda" has black hair and a pointed nose and look like enjoying looking at little boys

Is she a " PERVERT"?

note - just proved she is a "Mary" also

UK could quit EU without paying a penny, say Lords


Report says British government has no legal obligation to pay for Brexit or outstanding payments into EU budget



Jennifer Rankin in Brussels

Saturday 4 March 2017 00.01 GMT







The UK could walk away from the European Union in 2019 without paying a penny, the House of Lords has said, in a report bound to raise tensions with Brussels in the run-up to Brexit talks.

The British government would have no legal obligation to either pay a €60bn (£52bn) Brexit bill mooted by the European commission or honour payments into the EU budget promised by the former prime minister David Cameron, according to analysis by the House of Lords EU financial affairs sub-committee.


In a report published on Saturday, the committee argues that the British government would be on strong legal ground if it chose to leave the EU without paying anything, adding that Brussels would have no realistic chance of getting any money.



More: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/uk-could-quit-eu-without-paying-a-penny-say-lords

"UK could quit EU without paying a penny"

Well that fecks up most of those remoaners(fred) who rejoiced in screaming
another falsehood, which now shows, all that the remoaners can do is scaremonger
and spread false information....Another claim destined for the dustbin of LIES,
along with economic meltdown and WW3 breaking out if we had the audacity to
vote LEAVE in the referendum..........

Anarchy reigns.

To hell with responsibility.


Believe in the ethics Trump.

Lies are the truth in the new society.

Bring back tribalism and piracy.

Forgot, the UKIPPERS already believe in and want the above.

There will be no need of this in the New Society.

Will you be moving then Fred ?

Dil,

Be careful.

I might move in next door to you!

Blinkered or what!

'Scotland has a big problem, and it has nothing to do with the Tories, with
Brexit or with any other issues that the nationalist establishment is obsessed
with. Scotlands problems is that, largely as a result of Labour and SNP socialist
policies, Its economy is performing appallingly, and has been doing so for ages.'

telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/04/scotlands-dire-economy-falling-behind-uk/

LOL... And the SNP want the EU to save them from this self inflicted, social
dogma... Yes the one fred is a fan of!!!LMAO..

Fred you are more than welcome to move in next door and then you might realise the NHS in Wales is in a worse state than its English counterpart and is run by Labour.

So what's happening with the Brexit Bill , when does it get debated again and voted on in the Commons ?

Dil, Its voted on by MP's next Monday 13/Tues 14th.

Dil,

Once again, have a look at the demographics and social changes of Wales over the last 30 years and the funding social and welfare services of that period rather than shouting your mouth off.

Have a look at the overall health issues in some of the social groups.

You may find doing so is interesting.

re - Wales

Could someone give me a good reason why a young couple both unemployed ( both never work ) and with 4 kids ( 2 to 7 years old) have moved from London ( Labour borough ) to Bristol

Apart form being on a house now close to the countryside instead of a large flat.

Are there any better benefits for large families in Wales?

note : People are better off on benefits than working' is one of the most persistent myths

possibly or even probably because the cost of living in the west country (or wales) will be a lot lower than in london

also, if housing benefit is a flat amount, then that too will go much further in quality and size of property

Housing benefit is not a flat amount, it is a calculated amount based upon personal circumstances, such as income and expenses, disabilities etc but using formulae set by the government.

that wasn't quite what i meant
what i meant is, is the base the same whether you live in blaenau or in cirencester or in london or is it location-weighted?

It is not London weighted but clearly the potential benefit will be greater in London because of the higher rents. My understanding is that the council take into account assets and liabilities, plus income, expenditures and household circumstances, then feed that into a program.
I was interested to see the meeting in Versailles today to discuss the future of the EU. France (Hollande is in his final weeks as President), Germany (who knows whether Merkel will survive the upcoming election), Spain ( where Rajoy has had a major problem in forming his government) and Italy (which seems to have a new government every few months). Add to that Juncker stepping down in 2019 and Tusk's bid for a second term as President of European Council being opposed by his own country and you have a fine mess. Add in the other 23 waiting to have their say....don't hold your breath. Best option is too simply go back to the old EEC and forget all the federal nonsense. Have two euros - the Deutscheuro and the Realeuro. Let countries take their pick of which they want to be part of. Later, when Germany realises it is the only country with the Deutscheuro, it can go back to the Mark.