Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

so what are you ACTUALLY proposing in your "actions prior to talk-talk"?

It looks like the terrorists killed and arrested this morning may have been about to commit a bombing today. There could be others about to do the same. In the 'ticking bomb' scenario, do torture the ones arrested today?

I am not in favour of the death penalty, but the French do have an event method of dealing with treason. They guillotine you face up.

torture?
good heavens no ...... merely some friendly questioning over a cup of coffee with steak frites on the house at lunchtime

A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer are all found guilty of treason and are sentenced to beheading by guillotine.

On the day of the triple execution, they are brought to be beheaded. The priest blesses the execution, saying all is done in God's name, and the King orders the three executed.

The mathematician is to be killed first, and the executioner gives him two options: would he like a hood on or off, and would he like to be face up or face down.

So the mathematician says "Well, they all arrive at the equivalent state of beheading, so it's an arbitrary choice. I suppose I'll take no hood and face down, since it's the simplest solution."

So they lock him into the guillotine, the executioner drops the blade... and it stops inches from his neck.

The priest exclaims "It's a sign from God! This man is innocent! He must be let free!"

The King agrees, pardons the mathematician, and lets him go.

Next up to be killed is the physicist. He is given the same options: hood on or off; face up or face down.

So the physicist thinks, and says "Well, I've spent my whole life looking up at the stars and studying them... but it's broad daylight. I will take the hood to make it dark like night, and face up towards the Heavens."

So they lock him into the guillotine, the executioner drops the blade... and it stops inches from his neck.

The priest exclaims again "It's a sign from God! This man is innocent! He must be let free!"

The King agrees, pardons the physicist, and lets him go.

Finally, it's the engineer's turn to face the guillotine. He's given the same options: hood on or off; face up or down.

The engineer ponders, and says "I've spent my whole life studying machines and mechanical devices. If I am to be killed by the most efficient killing machine of all time, then I will look at its workings while I die! Hood off and face up!"

So they lock him into the guillotine, and the executioner is about to drop the blade, when the engineer exclaims: "I see the problem!"

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Lordy, lordy, you have posted something interesting.

Keep it up or perhaps not!

JEZZA JEZZA JEZZA JEZZA !!!!!!!! :0)

Wavey Dave is dithering again.

Put is right foot in, take his right foot out and vote it all about?

A man of political conviction!

for myself, i am very happy that we should accept syrian refugees, always provided they come direct from the camps in/around syria where they can be vetted with at least some degree of effectiveness

how many?
not sure ..... 1,000,000? not likely! ...... 20,000 over 4 years? sounds a bit paltry but care needs to be taken about the "creep" of then allowing in extended family members

Forget about 20k over 4 years. 1 over 100 years would be 1 too many!

ooh hilary don't let Fred hear you say that ..

Why would I worry about what that boring old fart thinks, Jimbo?

i'm amazed you should have that view hilary
why?

Because they're not the UK's problem, Cyners, nor mainland Europe's for that matter. If they want to blow themselves up, that's fine by me, but they've got their own country/countries within which to do it.

Personally, I'd put them all on a ship and tow it back to North Africa.

I got to say i agree with hilary ...

Trust me because of Merkel and the amount who went to Germany there is a lot more bloodshed to come .

I suppose the French police could have reasoned with her and tried to uncouple the belt she was wearing ..
Fred would have had the guts to do that..
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Two suspected jihadists were killed, including a woman who blew herself up, in a shootout Wednesday in north Paris with police hunting the mastermind of last week's attacks on the French capital, sources said.
As troops patrolled the streets, heavily-armed police swapped gunfire with people holed up in an apartment in the suburb of Saint-Denis, police sources said.
Two people in the apartment were killed, including a woman who blew herself up, and a third was still inside, and at least three police were injured, they said.
Two arrests were made.

Hairy one,

What are the tax regulations like in Austria now.

Hear the EU is trying to tighten up banking supervision.

Perhaps, they may not want you back in the Uk when the rules are changed.

Just a thought.

Completely mad as usual.

Manuel.

Wavy Dave was magnificent at PMQs.

LOL

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Just another thought.

Manuel,
I would implement actions to "observe" cross-border movements of individuals and vehicles and "investigate" any "abnormality" perceived, and to be able to intervene with the necessary force if required.

How effective such action would be is debatable, but it may reduce the “weaponry” and “personal” possibly flowing into the country.

I would implement viewing of money flowing in and out of this country to all parties, which might be informative, also view the flow of money in the UK.

I would accept internet surveillance under suitable Judicial supervision.
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I would resort to the UN.

I would attempt to form an acceptable body to discuss, consider and formulate a policy acceptable to a "majority" within it, to firstly restrict ISIS and then other such groups and sanctify and ratify any actions proposed. Then to try to come to an honest exchange of information and activities of groups with alien philosophies.
(I would propose removal of the veto, if only for the present “crisis”.)

I would advocate formation of a fully armed UN International Intervention Military and Police Force with the necessary “force” capable of “policing" and removing" removal of the perpetrators of such actions, as have recently occurred and others endangering the public in general.

I would hope a united and coordinated universally accept plan to restrict or reduce the “terrorists, financiers and adherents. That may need isolating certain countries economically and restricting the movement of individuals in and out of transgressing countries.

(The plan has to be acceptable to and accepted by the majority of existing world governments.)

(Similar to what is happening now were considered possible 50 -100 even more years ago in fiction. Perhaps, some should have thought a little about what they read and scoffed at then.)

Perhaps, these present events may introduce a sensible re-appraisable of the international situation in general realising what effects one country effects all.
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That is enough for Manuel to chew on for the moment and give him a chance to recall.

Re
No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
John Donne
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PS.

Just remembered Wavy Dave is trying to do some of the above, but promises to take his balls away if he doesn't get the response he wants.

He also wants to be King of the Castle and direct other country's men on the ground
from his playground in No 10.. But George is in the sand pit throwing sand into his eyes.