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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 14:48 - 64848 of 81564

France Asks European Partners to Join Attacks on ISIS in Syria

French invoke EU constitution clause calling on member countries to aid fellow member country undergoing ‘armed aggression.’

France has invoked the clause in the European Union constitution obligating the other EU member countries to come to the aid of a member who is a target of “armed aggression.” Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian invoked the clause Tuesday, in the wake of Friday’s terror attacks on Paris, at a meeting of EU defense ministers

cynic - 18 Nov 2015 15:01 - 64849 of 81564

i wonder if the french have done their homework with the rest of eu prior to issuing this call to arms

time will tell, and not far into the future either

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 15:02 - 64850 of 81564

The financial woes of cash-strapped UKIP have been doing the rounds for a while, and now we know why. The party took just £49,334 in donations in the last quarter, as Arron Banks’ money goes towards the Leave.EU campaign instead. Insiders tell Guido that the party still owes Facebook £80,000 for advertising during the election and they haven’t got the money to pay. Staff have been sacked as economies have had to be made.

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 15:14 - 64851 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/17/france-invokes-eu-article-427-what-does-it-mean

France has taken the European Union into uncharted territory by obliging the other 27 member states to come to its defence following the terrorist atrocities in Paris.

Invoking article 42.7, a never used clause of the EU treaty triggering mutual defence among the 28 member states, Paris admitted it was struggling to cope with its foreign military commitments while beefing up security at home in the wake of the attacks, and asked the rest of Europe to come to its assistance.

The request was supported unanimously in what Jean-Yves Le Drian, the French defence minister, described as an emotional and highly charged meeting of EU defence ministers in Brussels.

cynic - 18 Nov 2015 15:17 - 64852 of 81564

obliging the other 27 member states

that is a very dangerous move for all sorts of reasons, not least that many member states may well tell france to f-off .... in the politest political terms of course!

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by the way, i think it should be obligating rather than obliging!

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 15:34 - 64853 of 81564

The French have sent the aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle to Syria and we have sent a destroyer to give it air cover.

Stan - 18 Nov 2015 15:37 - 64854 of 81564

Then what Cameron to ask "Tory" Blair what to do next?

cynic - 18 Nov 2015 15:44 - 64855 of 81564

the french can do as they wish, as can uk (subject to parliamentary agreeance)
however, i don't see how the french can demand (obligate!) other eu nations support their action without any democratic process whasoever

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 15:48 - 64856 of 81564

The clause was put in the Lisbon treaty after the train bombing in Spain.

Don't forget the comnent above, 'The request was supported unanimously'.

VICTIM - 18 Nov 2015 15:50 - 64857 of 81564

Anonymous takes down 5,500 ISIS twitter accounts , begins leaking personal info . on americanmilitarynews.com apparently .

VICTIM - 18 Nov 2015 16:14 - 64858 of 81564

Well Russia starting to hit , now going after ISIS oil infrastructure , about time really it's been known about for quite a while now . May see crude move up .

cynic - 18 Nov 2015 16:20 - 64859 of 81564

hays - defense ministers may be unanimous, but whether or not they do so with the full backing of their gov'ts and parliaments is unclear


victim - little reaction at the moment

Haystack - 18 Nov 2015 16:24 - 64860 of 81564

I would have thought that France gave advance notice to governments before invoking the clause.

hilary - 18 Nov 2015 17:49 - 64861 of 81564

Cyners,

64850 - No, I'm not sympathetic towards refugees. Am I supposed to be?

cynic - 18 Nov 2015 18:20 - 64862 of 81564

only as a human being, but then it isn't a given that mothers love their children either

ExecLine - 18 Nov 2015 19:36 - 64863 of 81564

ExecLine - 18 Nov 2015 19:47 - 64864 of 81564

Published on 18 Nov 2015

Sky has launched a new service called Sky Q that blends live and on-demand TV as it tries to compete with the likes of Netflix.
The company described the new platform as its most significant product launch since HD and "a new way to watch TV".
The package will comprise a set-top box and a "super premium package" and will be separate from Sky's Now TV on-demand service.
Experts questioned what it would cost as Sky has not revealed pricing for the product.
Sky's Andrew Olson told Rory Cellan-Jones that it was a new "premium" offering.

hilary - 18 Nov 2015 19:48 - 64865 of 81564

Cyners,

That's bollocks, but feel free to paste up your address and I'll be happy to write it in the Lesbos sand.

ExecLine - 18 Nov 2015 19:57 - 64866 of 81564

Lesvos (Lesbos) - more than just another Greek island

Fred1new - 18 Nov 2015 22:10 - 64867 of 81564

You can never keep up with a gypsy!
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