Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Anarchy reigns.

To hell with responsibility.


Believe in the ethics Trump.

Lies are the truth in the new society.

Bring back tribalism and piracy.

Forgot, the UKIPPERS already believe in and want the above.

There will be no need of this in the New Society.

Will you be moving then Fred ?

Dil,

Be careful.

I might move in next door to you!

Blinkered or what!

'Scotland has a big problem, and it has nothing to do with the Tories, with
Brexit or with any other issues that the nationalist establishment is obsessed
with. Scotlands problems is that, largely as a result of Labour and SNP socialist
policies, Its economy is performing appallingly, and has been doing so for ages.'

telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/04/scotlands-dire-economy-falling-behind-uk/

LOL... And the SNP want the EU to save them from this self inflicted, social
dogma... Yes the one fred is a fan of!!!LMAO..

Fred you are more than welcome to move in next door and then you might realise the NHS in Wales is in a worse state than its English counterpart and is run by Labour.

So what's happening with the Brexit Bill , when does it get debated again and voted on in the Commons ?

Dil, Its voted on by MP's next Monday 13/Tues 14th.

Dil,

Once again, have a look at the demographics and social changes of Wales over the last 30 years and the funding social and welfare services of that period rather than shouting your mouth off.

Have a look at the overall health issues in some of the social groups.

You may find doing so is interesting.

re - Wales

Could someone give me a good reason why a young couple both unemployed ( both never work ) and with 4 kids ( 2 to 7 years old) have moved from London ( Labour borough ) to Bristol

Apart form being on a house now close to the countryside instead of a large flat.

Are there any better benefits for large families in Wales?

note : People are better off on benefits than working' is one of the most persistent myths

possibly or even probably because the cost of living in the west country (or wales) will be a lot lower than in london

also, if housing benefit is a flat amount, then that too will go much further in quality and size of property

Housing benefit is not a flat amount, it is a calculated amount based upon personal circumstances, such as income and expenses, disabilities etc but using formulae set by the government.

that wasn't quite what i meant
what i meant is, is the base the same whether you live in blaenau or in cirencester or in london or is it location-weighted?

It is not London weighted but clearly the potential benefit will be greater in London because of the higher rents. My understanding is that the council take into account assets and liabilities, plus income, expenditures and household circumstances, then feed that into a program.
I was interested to see the meeting in Versailles today to discuss the future of the EU. France (Hollande is in his final weeks as President), Germany (who knows whether Merkel will survive the upcoming election), Spain ( where Rajoy has had a major problem in forming his government) and Italy (which seems to have a new government every few months). Add to that Juncker stepping down in 2019 and Tusk's bid for a second term as President of European Council being opposed by his own country and you have a fine mess. Add in the other 23 waiting to have their say....don't hold your breath. Best option is too simply go back to the old EEC and forget all the federal nonsense. Have two euros - the Deutscheuro and the Realeuro. Let countries take their pick of which they want to be part of. Later, when Germany realises it is the only country with the Deutscheuro, it can go back to the Mark.

Maybe we do need a Referendum on whether we allow the HoL to screw up the Electorate that were given a free choice?
With so many "Representatives" being in the pay of EU... wouldn't it be fair to expect Lords/Commoners/Individuals to declare their position and not vote?
Oh dear, into the shadow of death rode the 800.

Haseltine has been sacked as a government adviser...GOOD RIDDANCE YOU OLD FOOL!!

Manuel,

Interesting article recalling what you posted some weeks ago.

"Builders turn to bolt-together homes in Brexit Britain"

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-construction-insight-idUKKBN16G1DC?feedType=nl&feedName=ukdailyinvestor&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UK%20Technology%20Roundup%202017-03-09&utm_term=UK%20Technology%20Roundup



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I was thinking of reducing my hold of TW..

If there wasn't so many people in worthless jobs like some made up quango's,
that is there to promote or train(brainwash) people on the virtues of belonging
to the EU, and more forethought from successive governments, and the raising
of the school age, where kids can't leave school until at least 18, then we wouldn't
be so reliant on foreign workers..

Not to mention the blinkered, or intentional, cutting of training places in important subjects like nursing.